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The new nightlife: ‘less like Paris, more like the Somme’ : Comments

By Richard Eckersley and Lynne Reeder, published 20/3/2009

The problem of worsening violence in public places is an international phenomenon and there are no quick fixes.

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The men at the Somme , on both sides were far better people than the Mongrels encounted in the Cities of today .

What can be done , well the Enviroment Breeds the Brute , we need to do something about the Enviroment .

If you have Casino / Hotel management profiting from intoxicated people who through desperation try to recover losses using credit cards etc be prepared for violence .

Random test participants in gambling , over 05 no card , management records card Number Code then sends No. to Bank , card is cancelled for 6 hours . Of course Gamblers over 05 can simply leave the casino etc with their card functioning .

Gov't open a new Court called the "Violence and Affray" Court , this Court will be run by Civilions , 3 JP's and one Crown Sargent will decide all issues , cost to the arrained will be $4000 irrespective of judgement , Guilty verdict attracts 6 months Goal , 2 months goal if $4ooo arrainment fee is paid on day of judgement . Harm to the Assulted would be decidered by the Current Court system .

Governments need the money , it's part of their Budget , they probably can't do without Gambling Tax .
Posted by ShazBaz001, Friday, 20 March 2009 10:50:55 AM
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Reasons:
1) Drugs. Hard drugs are more common these days. Speedy substances (God knows what is actually in them) turning people manic.

1a) Club owners are usually involved in drugs, therefore the "security" staff they hire are usually violent thugs who get their "fix" of ultra-violence at work.

2) Police are smaller, more agro and armed to the teeth. Prohibition and corruption means there is little respect for police, as they have little respect for the Law and the people. How many corruption inquiries before the family of crime gangs are excluded and prohibition is ended? (Apologies to the many good cops out there.)

3) Culture wars: "Us and them" factor is higher now with rich/poor gap wider than ever. Stop supporting the poor and the jungle heats up.

4) "Leadership" is absent from all levels of society at the moment: Governments are a joke (clearly led by well-funded lobbyists), business leaders are basically gang bosses, religious leaders are out of touch and revert to simplistic, ignorant world views.

The further along the the USA road we go, the worse this will get.
We know how not to do it: The USA.
We know how to do it: Denmark, etc. Many countries do not follow this trend. We should learn from them.
Posted by Ozandy, Friday, 20 March 2009 3:12:48 PM
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Has it ever occured to you that overpopulation has a significant role in this sort of behaviour?

Rats are a social animal,just like homo economicus.

Put rats into an overcrowded environment and they will attack each other.If you think that humans have more social responsibility than rats,think again.
Posted by thirra, Friday, 20 March 2009 6:16:15 PM
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Twenty years agopoeople opening theirmorning papers shook their heads at the stories of social violence made news.But there were many more people out there who didnt commit any violence.

Today we open our morning papers to find stories of social violenve as usual but now they have become almost glorified and editorialised and made sensationalised for a public that uses such news as drugs for highs and head wagging BUT there are many more people not resorting to violence than ever before when compared to the non-violent numbers twenty years ago. It is a question of population increase and tabloid exploitation.So it seems worse. But really....is it?

socratease
Posted by socratease, Friday, 20 March 2009 7:54:24 PM
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This is hysterically funny. You could have shortened the article to "The problem of internationalised public spaces is worsening violence but political correctness precludes any quick fixes". Last time I checked, Iceland (before the economic crisis) had a roaring night-time economy, but without the violence. Iceland is the most racially homogeneous country on the planet. There's your answer. Western cities are suffering from the tragedy of the commons: "that which is common to the most, has the least care bestowed upon it". Diversity is not strength, it is night-time barbarity.
Posted by online_east, Saturday, 21 March 2009 11:07:37 PM
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Heh. Watch the pre-conceptions come out to play.

Thirra suggests overpopulation. Well thirra, check out the night life in China. 1.3 billion people, and yet, things aren't going nuts there. Last time I checked, there were many big cities in the world where things weren't out of control.

Online_east comes out with everybody's favourite punching bag, cultural diversity. Last time I checked, western countries were the most culturally diverse in the world, but also the most coveted places to be. Contrary to popular belief, Australia, the US and Britain have had multicultural societies for many years.

About 95% of this problem comes back to the culture of binge drinking, and whatever you may wanna say about that Online_east, binge drinking is part of our Australian culture - it wasn't imported by any of those rascally minorities.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Sunday, 22 March 2009 1:37:32 PM
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