Awww, Hasbeen, isn't that nice?

Enjoy your retirement old timer.

I for one do not remotely care what your life story is, nor your wifes.

If your intention in writing that earlier piece was to have some fun and to be some sort of joke or "tongue in cheek" thing, you FAILED dismally.

There are so many out there that are as dinosaurish as you that think that this is the way the world works, that you think that you have somehow countertrended the rest of society and yet can write such tripe speaks volumes. Have a bit of a think about it next time yeah? Maybe run it past the missus first, she seems to be the brains of the outfit for sure.

hasbeen,

You should know by now that there are some women you can never please. One thing us men can never understand is why so many women are so self-obsessed. All we hear about is women this and women that. I mean men don't talk about why men are still in the majority when it comes to the dirty and dangerous jobs like the military and mining. We never hear of the hard-working 50s man who spent his whole life in a job he hated just to provide for his family - only to drop dead from a heart attack at 55.

I think we will only have achieved equility when feminists start jumping up and down demanding to know why so many more male soldiers are be killed in Iraq or Afganistan than women (have any female Australian soldiers been killed in Afganistan?) When they say, 'Why aren't women being blown to bits like men?'

Of course, as this constant navel-gazing by 'wymen' testifies, women see themselves as much more valuable than men. They will never settle for equality because they don't see us as equal.

JamesH

'I know a few blokes who go and hide in the toilet, some place safe.'

Sorry, mate. I hear on good authority that women are wising up to that old exclusionary tactic and following them in. (One of those aforementioned 'authorities' is a certain well-known lady MP and the urinal in question is at a certain well-known parliament house.)

Cornflour [sic]

'I am not sorry you have your dander up because you did that to yourself ...'

Now, Cornpetal. You're being much too humble. You know very well that your spectacularly obnoxious brand of gender conservatism should take at least some of the credit.

SJF

In your feminist world it might well be one of the pinnacles of feminist attainment to confront a man at a urinal, but you can rest assured that the greatest majority of women would be disgusted and angry at the lack of respect and privacy shown and would be demanding an apology.

If as you claim "One of those aforementioned 'authorities' is a certain well-known lady MP and the urinal in question is at a certain well-known parliament house", it doesn't say much for her does it that she would support a Ladette-like oaf (not her I hope!) who could bring the Parliament into disrepute.

If this is representative of your home brand of feminism it is frivolous and immature. Feel free to take a mop and bucket with you when you seek to emulate her stunt.

What is it with your feminism and urinals?

SJF:"(One of those aforementioned 'authorities' is a certain well-known lady MP and the urinal in question is at a certain well-known parliament house.)"

Lends a whole new meaning to "pissing in his pocket".

How would you feel about a man entering unbidden into a female toilet and browbeating someone engages in a private act of excretion?

As usual, this topic has become a parade of women angry because some men don't seem to agree that women are not, in general, downtrodden. They are even more incensed that some women have made their own choices not to be "feminists".

Perhaps if they learned to get over their own inflated sense of self-importance they may come up with a feminist ideology that actually appealed to those women who just want to be women.

Perhaps, they might find that their relationships with men improve to the point that eyes don't glaze over 30 seconds after they open their mouth.

Perhaps, they might even find that fighting biology, while no doubt very satisfying in a masochistic sort of a way, is basically less fun than working with the equipment you've got.

IOW, instead of trying to make men into hairy women, or women into men with concave bits, they might try working out why, after decades of intensive "feminist" maneuvring and forests worth of paper, they find themselves in the minority position any time a topic such as this is discussed by ordinary people?

They might ask themselves why gender relations have become so strained that a Govt has to pay a "bonus" to persuade men to father children and why there is now a very solid cohort of non-religiously-based "anti-feminists", including people of both genders.

If they're honest with themselves, they'll come up with some answers they won't like, so not much chance of that happening. Roll out the polemiciser and chop down a few more forests for the next book. After all, the previous ones have achieved so much...

Cornpower [sic]

You're not too strong at understanding nuance, are you? The men in the anecdote in question were deliberately planning their meetings in the urinal, with the full intention of excluding the women. I would have thought that this was obvious from my use of the words 'exclusionary tactic'.

And isn’t it interesting that your main observation of this anecdote was to declare the women disgusting and let the men’s disturbing behaviour off the hook?

Dane

'Why aren't women being blown to bits like men?'

They are … by landmines and other explosives and/or bombs falling on them from the sky. Or they’re dying of war-related diseases and famines, or they are forced from their devastated countries to become part of mass refugee dislocations, or they’re being targeted for war rape.

In modern warfare, the majority of deaths and casualties are civilian – and women often comprise the majority or at least a substantial minority of these. And the female civilian casualties of war don’t get any medals, or veterans’ pensions, or flag-draped coffins, or military parades, or dawn services, or monuments, or public holidays, or two-minute silences, or eulogies about not growing old.

Antiseptic

'... instead of trying to make men into hairy women, or women into men with concave bits, they might try working out why, after decades of intensive "feminist" maneuvring and forests worth of paper, they find themselves in the minority position any time a topic such as this is discussed by ordinary people?'

The hostile dysfunctionality of the first half of this quote overwhelmingly explains the situation described in the second half of the quote. You're confusing a 'minority position' with the wise decision to disengage with a discussion once it no longer offers anything of positive value.

... which is about the point of dysfunctionality reached by this discussion. So I'm outta here ... and will leave you and the cornpower, James, Hasbeen (et al) 'majority' to high-five one another into the sunset.