When we descend into personal attacks (calling people manginas, asserting that 'unlike' others, some of us live in the real world), then as far as I can tell there is no spirited debate left. Just mean-spirited attacks.

Signing out, no longer interested in what comes next. This started off an interesting conversation and the last several pages have been marked by more and more vitriol.

Goodbye all!

I agree Claire. The bitter and twisted types here are beyond the pale. I won't engage with abuse. The loudest abusive types on this blog push away reasoned debate and conversation. Good luck and enjoy your misery.

?And I can muster some sympathy for the dinosaurean men too,
.Posted by Miranda Suzanne, Monday, 30 March 2009 9:05:09 AM

I won't engage with abuse. The loudest abusive types on this blog push away reasoned debate and conversation. Good luck and enjoy your misery.Posted by Miranda Suzanne, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 3:26:03 PM

That's the pot calling the kettle black!

Isn't it funny how these topics always end up with the feminists saying "you're all just abusive and I'm taking my bat and ball and going home" whenever a contrary view is put forward? It's all snipe and run; make a claim then disappear when the questions are asked.

However, Miranda was right about one thing: in today's Australia, women dominate the professions, with more than 52% of employed professionals being women. They also dominate academic institutions and the bureaucracies and have done for years. The brunt of this current economic collapse will be borne by men who have gone to the mines and the construction sites in order to make the "big money" that only lasts for a short time, while women have stayed home, enjoying spending that money and making careers.

I wonder how many of those professional women are going to be prepared to support their men through what may be a long period of unemployment, just as men have always done for their women?

The next statistic to show a big increase will be divorces, as women choose to "protect their assets" by getting rid of the man who worked for it before it gets consumed through his unemployment. With the skewed laws that we have they'd be fools not to, and nobody has suggested that.

That entire post was an April Fool's Day joke, wasn't it Antiseptic?

Asserting that all men are inherent abusers of women is a joke. However it is a vicious joke and it is not restricted to April 1 each year.