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St Mary’s and St Michael’s : Comments

By Alan Austin, published 9/3/2009

Brisbane's Catholic Archbishop John Bathersby and Victoria’s Uniting Church Moderator Jason Kioa are facing similar challenges. Their responses could hardly be more different.

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I still have a few people who disagree with me that the government of Australia is based in the New Testament. Some of these people say they are sick of me. Fair enough, I am sick of atheists and secularists who refuse to accept clear evidence written in black and white, too so we are probably even, though the tide of history is on my side.

The Parliament of the Commonwealth is a Protestant Christian court that starts each day with the Lord’s prayer from the Sermon on the Mount. We used to have protestant Christian grass roots political meetings all over the country and we used to call these the Supreme Court and District Court in Queensland, and they had 12 ordinary electors drawn from the community and a lawyer as president. These had absolute power, and whatever the bods in Parliament did, it was a waste of time unless a jury thought it was a good idea and was prepared to enforce it. When Joh was in power, he knew this, but some since have forgotten it.

Now the Roman Catholic Church has a different system of government. It comes down from the top, with the Pope as absolute ruler. The combination of Roman Catholics and lawyers, in the Parliament of the Commonwealth when they created the Federal Court, Family Court and modified the High Court in 1979, made them Roman Catholic Courts. A Roman Catholic Court has a capital C. A Protestant Christian Court has a little c and it is this type of court that Ch III Constitution requires for the exercise of the Judicial Power of the Commonwealth. Most thinking Roman Catholic folk liked what we had, and did not realize they had been made compulsory Roman Catholics and no longer had a choice of trial methods. It’s a High Priest Lawyer or nothing these days.

The Protestant Christian Parliament of the Commonwealth made this a crime in 2001, in the Criminal Code Act 1995 ( Cth) and the widespread attack on the civil population of Australia by a very small minority must be stopped
Posted by Peter the Believer, Thursday, 9 April 2009 8:08:54 AM
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Hello again. The original story has advanced somewhat recently. http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=12889 Cheers, Alan A
Posted by Alan A, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 2:09:32 PM
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O2, you need to turn your questions around and answer them yourself...the mere fact that there is no way to substantiate your 'statistics' with any data, indicates those statistics are questionable...

As for non-judgemental, YOU?...rofl...oh, please, rofl...(tears sreaming down my cheeks now...rofl)

There isn't a 'too long' time limit on responses, is there? Who sets the limit? Don't you have a life outside of cyberspace O2? I have a life off line...you should try it sometime... :) I think being overbearing online is called 'cyber-bullying', but I'm not intimidated by you O2, so I guess it doesn't count...

I don't 'feel' I can 'judge' Cardinal Pell on his attendance at court... he knows the circumstances of that case, not you or I...'non-judgemental' hmmm?

If you are a 'victim' then you'd know the answers, I'm not, so I'm not going to be presumptuous enough to assume I should...

'Personally, I feel that genuine Catholics are hard done by because everyone focuses on them and not on the other religious organisations where similar crimes have occurred...' ...are you serious? ...so why are YOU joining the 'everyone' when you 'focus' on one alleged issue and ignore all those Catholics you know first hand and all those 'priests who work tirelessly'...this is the first indication you have given there are ANY Catholics who exist outside of your list of alleged sexual predators.

If my local MP was failing me, I'd take it up with him-her, I'd do the same with the heirachy of the Church...but I'm happy with the Pope and his Cardinals...and the wonderful work they do. You should try to do some good works instead of trying to tear down the good name of others...look up the biblical references for that one too!

I don't 'judge' people as good or 'baddies' by how many bible references they can quote by rote...I don't know any reason why I should change that position, certainly your hypocrisy only confirms it...'faith without good works is dead'...

(tbc...)
Posted by Meg1, Saturday, 18 April 2009 2:57:16 PM
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...your bible 'rote' learning means nothing if you use it to attack the good name and works of the Catholic Church and its believers...you've-fallen-on-your-own-sword!

The 'baddies' (judgemental again) will answer for their sins, not-for-yours-or-mine...ignoring the good and highlighting only the 'bad' that you are assuming-judging exists in others...smacks of hypocrisy permeating all your posts...Oops, O2, God forbid I become judgmental,like you!

As Davidf has answered PTB, there's little more to say...Davidf's right...I question the inaccuracy of PTB's statement especially regarding the RC religion being 'alien to England'...what the? Here's a history lesson PTB, before the reign of HenryVIII, the RC religion was the established faith of England...and I'd ask who else at Alice's tea party believed your bit about the RC exclusion of 'voters of both sexes from courts', are you hearing voices too? I think you're just kidding with your post, right? Right? You can't really ask us to take this one seriously, can you? Having known Joh personally over decades, I think you're playing with the truth to suggest he backed your fantasies...'don't you worry about that'.

RE: the gift of humour that keeps on giving...

I've saved you for last BB, thanks for the compliment...I do my best :)

The best advice to anyone to prevent STDs is to say-no-to-99-out-of-100 and restrict yourself to one partner who you've respect and love for...sex is meant to be an expression of love and gift of oneself – not broadcast as freely as e-mail correspondence. I'm suggesting you've used the term 'health experts' very loosely also so, in the absence of credible 'health' arguments that could back up sexual promiscuity and guarantee condoms will give 100% protection from STD's, I'll leave your argument where you left it...in tatters on the floor.

AA, you ask...'why do leaders of these ministries so often find themselves in bitter contention with their superiors?'
Why indeed...you forgot Mother Teresa,so well known and loved amongst the poor...without 'bitter contention with the Church heirarchy', There's-the-difference-and-the-answer. The-others-have-forgotten-that-God-asks-us-to-do-it-all-with-love-not-'bitter contention'. BTW, Pope John Paul 11 did not live in 'luxury'...your 'saint' needs a lesson in truthfulness!
Posted by Meg1, Saturday, 18 April 2009 3:28:52 PM
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Oh Meg you are a funny one...

You can Google can't you? Maybe if you Googled Catholic Priest Gerald Risdale you might increase your knowledge (yep you can learn), then you may be actually able to see why you should know more about Cardinal Pell's alleged actions.

I have a wonderful life Thanks Meg...but I also try to assist the sheep that have fallen by the wayside. I don't call people "Rent a crowd" because I understand the significance of the Sermon on the Mount.

I would put up the good things that I do in life compared to you any day Meg... you would lose hands down!

Are you saying Bible knowledge is a bad thing Meg?

Do you know your bible well enough?

I won't continue our debate because you have reverted back to name calling. All those years at church and very little to show for it...rofl

CYA in heaven Meg... I'll be the one laughing with Jesus as you enter...rofl
Posted by Opinionated2, Saturday, 18 April 2009 7:14:42 PM
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Hello again. The St Mary's issue rolls along ...
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=8848
Posted by Alan A, Thursday, 30 April 2009 8:08:47 PM
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