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Macedonia: it's not just the name : Comments

By Aristide Caratzas, published 23/1/2009

There are good reasons why the Greeks cannot easily accept the name of Macedonia for the former Yugoslav Republic.

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BOAZ_David,

I think the most disturbing aspect of these imported rivalries is when they are carried on by people born in Australia who seem to identify with their parents' or even grandparents' homelands and tribalism. Let's hope that they're a very small percentage of the population.
Posted by mac, Sunday, 25 January 2009 1:35:05 PM
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The AMAC, (Australian Macedonian Advisory Council) is NOT I repeat NOT....... a Macedonian organization. They are simply a fringe puppet organization for the racist "Greek Lobby in Australia"!
They are falsely claiming to be Macedonian when in fact they are ultra nationalist fundamentalist Greek Group that wants nothing more than to destroy the true Macedonians, their History language, culture and Identity. This group is nothing more than an enemy of the Macedonian people in Australia and in the Republic of Macedonia. They pathetically advocate the denial of a countries right to choose its own name and identity. Keeping in mind that under the UN Charter any nation is guaranteed has the right to "self determination and identity".

On the proud and historic Australia Day I say to all Australians, disregard this group, they are un Australian and do not believe in the principles of” a fair go” or share any Australian values or ideals. Their are arguments are flawed and non sense rhetoric. They are an undemocratic right wing movement that has absolutely no links to real Macedonians living in Australia or around the world including The "Republic of Macedonia". In a nutshell there article is a load of crap that isn’t worth the paper it’s written on
Posted by Dimitri, Monday, 26 January 2009 12:28:45 PM
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Boaz and mac,
Well said, if people want to come and live here they should leave their old world hatreds behind, if not don't come here. We have better things to do than listen to or deploy our police to breakup your stupid fights.

First thing we need to do is stop importing those groups that bring their old hatreds with them and others that have shown they cannot or will not integrate with others in the community. we should not tolerate alien cultural practices.

We should draw up a list of those that need not bother applying for permanent residency. My list would start with Croats and Serbs, lebanese Muslims, those that practice FGM, those that have forced marriages, those that contiue to hold cockfights or dog fights. There may be more but that will do for starters.
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 26 January 2009 1:56:25 PM
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I agree, let's ban all of the petty ethnic and cultural identities of all that come here: Christmas, Valentine's day, Easter, St. Patrick's day, fish and chips, ethnic restaurants....

Ah life is so simple isn't it?
Posted by RenegadeScience, Monday, 26 January 2009 2:58:58 PM
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Renegade Science,
Yes Cob, it is simple. We do not have to accept people that thumb their nose at our laws and community standards. If you go to another country you accept their laws and standards.

We are under no obligation to accept all and everybody.

So we blacklist those groups who have shown they are disruptive to community cohesion and will not or cannot accept our laws and standards. Yep very simple really! No more get entry.

It is our country and Australian citizens make the rules. The only thing wrong is we elect politicians without backbone.
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 26 January 2009 3:31:21 PM
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Dear Banjo:

It is sad you assumed I want or expect people to thumb their noses at "our laws", and even sadder that your response to me includes "Cob"; but such are forums like this, to assume the worst in others and respond as such.

Everyone brings with them their identity and past, whether we like it or now, even Australians who move elsewhere. A cultural identity is not like a piece of clothing to be thrown off. Of course violence is unacceptable, but it should be just as unacceptable in their countries as in ours, not just in ours, that is the problem.

Feel free to toss out more dismissive terms to people like me, or assume the worst, or assume the opposite position in me. I will not do likewise.

Fortunately I can and will find better ways to deal with differences.

John
Posted by RenegadeScience, Monday, 26 January 2009 3:51:24 PM
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