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What's wrong with 'Islamophobia' : Comments

By Nick Haslam, published 23/12/2008

Prejudice flourishes among people who are cold, callous, inflexible, closed-minded and conventional.

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Yes, we already know what kind of thing entertains your mind, especially its imagination.
Posted by mil-observer, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 5:02:20 PM
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mil-observer, how's that Marxist ideology going mate?

You know, it is only right to investigate when Muslim women make such claims from amongst their own Islamic community. It doesn't make one a racist or bigot. You raising Nazism and other things just demonstrates just how much hatred you hold but I forgive you. It's a direct result from all that leftist pinko crap they hounded into children by the wall to wall socialist Labor government.

By the way, I'll be thinking of you when the Muslims blow up a school bus full of children out of their love for Allah.
Posted by Spider, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 10:49:57 PM
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The supposed sectarian conflict between Shia's and Sunni's in Iraq is largely an illusion created by 'false flag' terrorist attacks which are either carried directly by the US and British occupation forces or sponsored by them. In September 2005, 2 British SAS men were caught red-handed at a roadblock in Basra dressed as Arabs in a car containing explosives, detonators and other weapons. They killed an Iraqi policeman and wounded another ans also wounded civilians. They were pursued and captured. However the local British forces attacked the police station and freed the men before the questioning could be completed.

Of this Dr. Elias Akleh writes in "British Terrorism in Iraq"

"It had been long known to the Iraqis, to the Arabs, and to all Moslems in countries bordering Iraq that the majority of the terrorist attacks in Iraq, especially car bombing, are perpetrated by covert British, American, and Israeli operatives. It is also well known to them that the terrorist Abu Musab Al Zarqawi and his 'Al-Qaeda in Iraq' are just inventions of the coalition forces to justify their existence. More and more evidences are coming out of Iraq to support this fact. The arrest of two undercover British SAS operatives last week, disguised as Arabs trying to plant a car bomb in the middle of Basra during the Karbala Festival, which draws as many as 3 million pilgrims to the city, is just the latest of such revelations. ..." (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1024)

An ongoing discussion is to be found in the forum "Bush's democracy of hypocrisy" at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=8288#131101

See also:

"Basra Bizarre: SAS Commandos Arrested and Sprung" at http://www.pej.org/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3331&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

"Iraq probe into soldier incident" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4264614.stm

"State-Sponsored Terror: British and American Black Ops in Iraq" at http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9447
Posted by daggett, Friday, 16 January 2009 8:24:06 AM
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mil-observer wrote: "This planet has massive untapped resources and, most important, infinite human potential to improvise new, more efficient use of currently exploited resources."

This is truly confirmation that amongst some members of our species, human intelligence has not progressed at all in 10,000 years, least of all, amongst many supposedly enlightened progressive members of our species.

I don't have time to point to all the examples of resource shortages caused by human overpopulation: fish, agricultural land, petroleum and above all water.

As it happens, agricultural production in the Deccan in India is dependant upon water being pumped 24x7 from non-renewable underground water aquifers.

Similar circumstances exist many parts of the world including the West of the US and Mexico.

What does mil-observer think will be used instead when that supply eventually inevitably runs out?

When past civilisations such as the Mayans (http://candobetter.org/about#maya), the Greeks (http://candobetter.org/about#greece), the Romans, the Angkor Wat, the Chaco Anasazi (http://candobetter.org/about#chaco) exceeded the carrying capacity of their natural environment through a combination of excessive numbers and poor environmental practices, no amount of intelligence saved their civilisations from collapse.

How can mil-observer know for a fact that it won't be different for our globalised industrialised society?

If we don't start making better use of our intelligence, resource shortages and over-population will soon make the illusion of sectarian conflict created by the British and Americans in Iraq may a terrible every day reality in most parts of the world as we saw, for example in Rwanda in the early 1990's.
Posted by daggett, Friday, 16 January 2009 8:27:20 AM
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Thanks daggett. Yes, the Brits' jail-busting case seemed to reveal the most "in-your-face" example of the neolib coalition's terrorism sponsorship in Iraq. I also alluded to a latter-day "Phoenix Program" in this context, because it's not new. Your links' references to Northern Ireland are also apt with their explanation of covert terror in false flag assassination and simple bomb-planting mayhem. Indeed, the MO in remote-control "suicide bombing" is one of the sickest jokes in the "war on terror" farce: I've checked several such cases with clear evidence of remote detonation and none of suicidal attack. But the media have almost entirely gone along with the script, while pushing the sleaze that "such extremism and savagery" actually justify continued commitment to these sick and variously racist and Islamophobic wars.

You made a big call next with: "confirmation that amongst some members of our species, human intelligence has not progressed at all..." I assert merely that technology used fairly can and will stabilize populations as it has done in other countries. See for example some leading nuclear-powered countries like France and Sweden - still net population importers.

Why is such technological comfort denied "in principle" to countries where the need is greater, especially where challenged by so basic a need as clean drinking water? Countries like India and Indonesia are progressing well almost independently in these areas, but the same people who destabilized Iraq want to see the same chaos and barbarity afflict those countries too. Latest-generation uranium-fission and thorium reactors promise the most immediate benefits, but some older technology has worked wonders (as in recent German nuclear aid to Indonesia).

So I hold comfortably to my assertion: "This planet has massive untapped resources and, most important, infinite human potential to improvise new, more efficient use of currently exploited resources." As I also qualified earlier though less directly, population volatility is reduced when people have greater certainty in their productive and reproductive lives.

To instead ignore such factors of progress and hope could give great comfort and even perceived justification to murderous covert terrorists in their nasty imperialist and misanthropic projects.
Posted by mil-observer, Friday, 16 January 2009 11:03:02 AM
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The blind (daggett) leads the blind (mil-observer) and they fall into the sewerage pit.

Blame the Sunni/Shia conflict on the British and Americans, unbelievable. The Sunni/Shia conflict is centuries old and is not found in many islamic countries.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/suicide-bombing-and-riots-kill-27-as-pakistan-celebrates-muslim-festival-466123.html

daggett, speaking about over population, the Muslims are breeding faster than the guinea pigs.
Posted by Philip Tang, Friday, 16 January 2009 8:20:48 PM
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