An utter loads of BS!

Who the hell does kellie tranter think she is? She obviously knows nothing about the war on terror! You know kellie if u had lived in afghanistan before the invasion, you would not allowed to have a profession or an education. You would be stoned to death to speaking to a man other than your husband. You would not be allowed to show any part of your body in public. And every citizen, regardless of gender, was the subject to the most barbaric and cruel punishments imaginable.
So how dare people condemn the overthrow of the afghani government. The cheering afghanis in the street didn't seem to mind, neither did the iraqis when they tore down the statue of saddam hussein and dragged it through the street.
If america wanted to kill civilians, it would. It has the potential to kill hundreds of thousands, DIRECTLY. It also wouldn't spend hundreds of billions in aid to rebuild iraq and afghanistan. the US military could have cut and run and installed a puppet government to handle things and iraq would be ignored by the media like all the other war torn countries. Countries like the democratic republic of the congo, which was involved in a bitter war starting the same year the US invaded iraq and completely ignored by the media, where 4 million civilians were murdered.

Liberal. Before you criticise the female situation in Afganistan, take a look in your own backyard.

Here in Australia we have fundamentalist christian religous groups, that control the lives of their females and their children.

The devastation of a sovereign country that was no threat to Australia and the loss of many thousands of lives,in an illegal invasion, would indicate you have strange morals and prinicples when it comes to human life.

To quote the author. Not in my name!

Kipp,

You say >> “Here in Australia we have fundamentalist christian religous groups, that control the lives of their females and their children.”

You must be joking. There is simply no comparison between Australia and Afghanistan under the Taliban. Anyone who would suggest such a thing is either ignorant of the facts or is appallingly short sighted.

The Taliban instituted Sharia Law. Thus the appalling treatment of women was in accordance with the law of the land. Anyone who is a victim of far right Christianity in this country can seek redress under the law, as opposed to being punished under it, as in Afghanistan.

Secondly, the war in Afghanistan was not illegal. That’s a simple fact. Indeed the UN has been involved from the very beginning, although not in charge.

Islamo-Facists have shown they are a danger to civilised people everywhere through their attacks in Bali, New York, London, Madrid, Beslan, Mumbai etc. Furthermore, the perpetrators of 9/11 trained in Afghanistan and were based there under the protection of the Taliban. The Taliban were given the option of handing over Bin Laden and his terrorist mates, they refused to do so.

The overthrow of the Taliban was met with significant appreciation in Afghanistan. Unfortunately the lack of political will in the west has seen the Taliban regain some of the ground they lost in 2001/2. Hopefully, with the successful conclusion of the Iraq war, Afghanistan will receive the troops and attention it needs

A war, or better any war, cannot be won. Never could, never will.
There is only suffering, for all who are involved. We had no right to again help to invade another foreign country, but did it for f..king no reason at all, only based on a lie. And we will continue to do so, unfortunately. We are relying too much on the US. Our values and mindset are almost like theirs, this makes us all guilty.
A war can not be won. Good on you, Kellie.
No war in my name,
cheers

Paul L. Take the Exclusive Bretheren sect for example, the followers must not mix with the populace of Australia.
The women must have their heads covered, their children are not allowed to view television, media etc, or participate in any activity outside the "EB" environment, and they must be educated in a closed environment and never have a university education
Australian taxpayers are obligated and have to contribute too a closed sect,and you talk about religous control and sharia law.

Anything that divides people is evil! And its on your doorstep !!

M2CATTER..... you say no war can be won.

I tend to agree. But the objective of war might be noble. "Rid the world of a tyrant like Hitler or Sadaam". Now, we both know that had Hitler not been stopped.. we would be speaking German today. The same goes for the Ottomans at the Gates of Vienna.. then the Germans (and us) would be speaking Arabic.

Unfortunately, there are those ideologies which regard OUR form of government 'tyranical/infidel/satanic' and thus feel it would be 'noble' to rid us of our elected leaders and replace them with their lacky's

A little saying I've developed...don't know if it's original..but I've never heard it before I thought of it.

"All Peace is the result of war. Every war sows the seeds of the next one"

This is because human beings are not the reasonable, well intended beings we are often told they are (usually by humanists)..no..they/we are people driven by:

Self preservation
Self propogation
Self Gratification

Most human motivation can be reduced to one or more or a combination of these basic drives. The 'self' can mean the physical or the spiritual or both.

Because of this... there is seldom a war which results in just 'neutral peace' and the lack of punishment or disadvantaging of one group or another.

If, for example, a country is re-shaped along very strong ideological lines (Marxism, National Socialism, Islam (Taliban)) and then that nation is defeated by a group of allies... it is highly unlikely that they will ever view the victors in any other way than with utter contempt. Hence..they will be seeking ways to return things to their preferred model. (e.g. Afghanistan today)

This leads to the inescapable conclusion..that war is in fact neccessary, and unavoidable at times and that it always will be, to keep such human filth at bay from the rest of us who don't wish to have such animals running our show.