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By Warren Reed, published 1/12/2008Bureaucrats running intelligence agencies; inter agency rivalry; political cronyism: they all affect Australia’s preparedness for terrorist attacks.
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Posted by Gibo, Monday, 1 December 2008 3:08:52 PM
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The attack on Mumbai is the continuation of terror by ALL MEANS. The question is whether the civilized people of the world in this struggle for existence will be expecting the U.S.A., under the new incoming administration, which is the only nation that can defeat these warriors of ‘God’ decisively, and its allies, to also fight terror by all means and whether President Obama will have the timely mettle, resolution, and sagacity to do so.
http://kotzabasis.com Posted by Themistocles, Monday, 1 December 2008 5:40:58 PM
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“Potential informants have been put off by unnecessarily draconian anti-terror legislation”, is a strange statement badly needing explanation.
“And yet, we still don’t know why Scott Parkin, an American protestor visiting Melbourne for a G20 meeting in 2005, was extradited from Australia as a threat to national security.” I’d be surprised if anyone felt any need to know why a foreign protestor was removed from Australia. We had our own ratbags demonstrating. We didn’t need a rude foreigner here as well. We should all be alarmed by incidents such as the Chaser ‘affair’. The comedians went out of their way to get caught and made the police look complete idiots. I think that the general theme of this article is supposed to be the ineptitude of people supposedly responsible for Australia’s security. But it is a disjointed piece, jumping all over the place with no continuity and really saying nothing we don’t already know or feel. We should be able to expect something better from someone who has been in the ‘job’. If this is the best criticsm and most helful criticism of our security and intelligence services, we are in big trouble. Posted by Mr. Right, Monday, 1 December 2008 7:17:14 PM
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The culture, empire building, cronyism and inter-agency rivalry (State-Federal, State-State; and Federal-Federal) is one of the biggest risk factors working against real cooperation and vital sharing of information if the threat of terrorism is to taken seriously.
No point having threat assessments and analysis, sometimes duplicated, if all pieces of information are not being shared. Some very apt comments in this article. The cooperation between agencies has improved considerably since 9/11 but there is still room for greater improvements. If some of the parties would concentrate less on who is top dog, who is smarter, cleverer, more important - there are some real d*weeds in the industry who thrive on the image, thrill and self-imagined mystique. I believe a more open and transparent national security network would encourage greater trust and faith in the system;leading not only to greater raw data ie. information - but more credible information. It is not only vital that information be shared but that the networks that turn this information into 'intelligence' coordinate and cooperate with each other to make the data more meaningful and hence more effective. Posted by pelican, Monday, 1 December 2008 9:25:05 PM
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India’s 9/11. Who was Behind the Mumbai Attacks?
http://www.infowars.com/?p=6262 Michel Chossudovsky | The operation has the fingerprints of a paramilitary-intelligence operation. Jaish-e-Muhammad is Added to the List of Mumbai Suspects http://www.infowars.com/?p=6260 Kurt Nimmo | Pakistani terrorist group was founded by MI6 asset and 9/11 bagman Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh. New York Times Misleads on Taliban Role in Opium Trade http://www.infowars.com/?p=6276 Foreign Policy Journal | The New York Times and other major U.S. media sources commonly report on the production of opium in Afghanistan as though it were under the control of the Taliban. The facts on the ground, however, tell a different story. Who dominates the Afghan opium trade? Doctors shocked at hostages’ torture http://www.infowars.com/?p=6265 Rediff India | Doctors working in a hospital where all the bodies, including that of the terrorists, were taken said they had not seen anything like this in their lives. Mumbai terrorists used Chechen tactics http://www.infowars.com/?p=6249 Russia Today | The terrorists in Mumbai used the same tactics that Chechen militants employed in the Northern Caucasus, says Russian counter terrorism Mumbai attacks: City fears five terrorists are ‘missing’ http://www.infowars.com/?p=6263 Times Online | At least five terrorist gunmen have evaded capture in Mumbai and could make a secondary strike on India’s financial capital, it was feared this morning. Mumbai False Flag Attack: Update http://www.infowars.com/?p=6253 Leonard Feldman | Many have speculated over the last two days that the captured terrorists would be assassinated as is the case with all ‘terrorists’ in false flag operations. Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 7:26:14 AM
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Idiots. "Islam just a stone's throw from Darwin". Yawn - and spew. It's so tiring that we are still bombarded with inane references to "war", "clash of civilizations" and such rubbish. It is a simple, uncontroversial truism to remind ourselves that these actions are first and foremost of the "criminal conspiracy" nature - period. Anything else is distraction of the classic techniques of "false flag" and proxy actors.
Well done again OUG! The MI6 filth and "false flag" are well worth a mention here. Notice how the UK press reported the UK connections from the start, but have now back-pedalled. An exception is Mail Online's Sunday reference to Lashkar-e-Taiba: "A banned Islamic terrorist group funded with cash raised in British mosques is believed to be behind the Mumbai attacks." Earlier UK press quotes repeatedly exposed that at least seven of the attacking criminals were UK nationals - even speaking Punjabi with characteristic northern-English accents! Same old imperialist dullards playing their games, telling themselves their geniuses as if they really achieved something sophisticated with partition and other dark schemes and secrecy. Posted by mil-observer, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 9:51:49 AM
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There are never enough police and intell folk (thats how China got her 1,000 spies out here with their little box brownies).
We're running behind with Defence.
We look to computers for highschool children and building infra- structure here and there and not at the size of the great armies to the north. Our eyes are not on them.
Some day soon we are going to have to draw from the populace for a defence... just to make it through the years ahead.
I hope someone is thinking about it.
Islam is only a stones throw north of Darwin.
...and some say theyve been here before.
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