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Beware of the Obama hype: what 'change' in America really means : Comments

By John Pilger, published 17/11/2008

Obama’s first two crucial appointments represent a denial of the wishes of his supporters on the principal issues on which they voted.

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keith, you're digging your hole deeper. When your errors are clearly pointed out, and you just respond by calling your opponents fools while pretending to be some intellectual paragon of wisdom - albeit one that can't seem to address when he's been clearly shown to be in error... it looks, well, foolish.

So, for the third time, can you give any backing to your claims that Obama was hiding his stance on abortions and stem cell research? I haven't seen a single thing indicating this. However, I actually took the time to look prior to the election, and found his stances quite clear. I was glad to see his pro-choice credentials and dedication to research.

As for your commentary regarding economic theory, I find it most amusing that you simultaneously blast the Austrian school of economic theory, while lauding Bush, who has driven the American economy into a train wreck.
At the same time, you simultaneously foam at the mouth when anyone declares any support for Israel over Palestinians and won't countenance real kind of compromise that isn't utterly in the Palestinians favour.
And yet, you still laud Bush, who has been among the most partisan Presidents in recent times and has driven the Palestinians further from their goals.

Frankly, you're all over the place. I suppose I can see why you need to blame the 'elite media' which is really, the most childish way of wriggling out of an argument. Everywhere I see those who blame the 'elite media' or the 'conservative media' or the 'liberal media' or the 'capitalist media' or the 'government media' I think, 'what idiocy.' Whilst the media is certainly flawed, it's flawed in all directions, just like people, not some monolithic front where editorial directions are handed down minute-by-minute by some omniscient grand poobah.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 1:26:38 PM
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TRTL

That is amazing. Seeing you turn a little to the right! Wow next thing we will have the ABC running the Billy Graham hour. You are spot on with your response to Keith. I think his head must be getting a little messed knowing that he won't be able to blame the whites for every world evil anymore.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 2:43:14 PM
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'...but I doubt any of you fools could even begin to understand the ideas or histories involved.'

You just proved my point.

Go read Hume, Mises, Von Hayek, and Keynes and then you will understand as you watch Obama and his democrat lefties really continue to stuff things up.

The world has survived bad US presidents before and we'll endure Obama.

Oh and in case you think Bush was a poor US president you are dead wrong, and history will see his success... unlike you poor blinded idealogues.
Posted by keith, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 5:53:39 PM
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Drop your history books and read some contemporary stuff Keith. Bush is widely considered by most presidential experts – quite a serious vocation in the US – as the worst president ever. Perhaps you can explain why after 8 years of republican rule things aren’t so dandy. They can.

Suck it up!
Posted by bennie, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 1:39:01 PM
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*History will recognise Bush as one of the most successful presidents ever *

Hehe Keith, you really should stop smoking that stuff :)

When you write that sort of nonsense, you won't have any credibility
left. We know that you are worried about your money, but guess under
whose leaderships we have a major financial crisis? Your hero
of course.

Pilger has to write something, so its the usual claptrap, its how
he makes his money. Whinging is his speciality.

Perhaps he is sorry that Sarah did not win, for whew, that would
have given him some great stories to write!

I certainly hope that Obama restores family planning expenditure
for the third world. Americans insist on it, why not the third
world? Keith's hero George of course thought that abstinence
would work, so this was to be preached. His daughters seemingly
could not abstain from the booze and were caught drinking. Sarah's
daughter clearly took no notice of the abstinence preaching of her prez. In fact America has some of the developed world's highest
teen pregnancy rates. All that praying and abstaining is clearly
not working!

In 8 years George has basically wrecked America and Keith thinks
that makes him a great prez. Keith, you really have a career in
comedy if you want it, even if you are unaware of it :)
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 8:03:55 PM
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Dear Yabby

In a previous post it was simply, very simply, explained to you that I do not worry about money but that I look after it to the benefit of my future. Like most everybody else.

It was also simply, very simply, again explained to you that since it was you that attached the word worry to money, then that indicated more about you than me.
Btw how's those BHP Bulliton shares? I reckoned there was about 10% further bottoming yet but I might have been wrong. There are some frightful signs in the Dow this morning.

It appears sellers are now selling in fear, not of the future, but because it appears many companies are having frightful difficulty in raising cash to meet their monthly bills... now that's real scary ... if you own shares.

Oh and many dealers and commentators are selling off their retirement accounts... sheeesh I hope you realise what that means?

The rest of your post followed the style of your inital comments so as usual I've ignored it because I don't want to delve into your very simplist world.

Have a nice day and a comfortable future.
Posted by keith, Thursday, 20 November 2008 9:51:08 AM
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