David Singer

Do you know what you desire is tantamount to a progrom to evict Palestinians from their homelands?

I know you won't condemn, in fact you welcome support from, people who spout the following sorts of rasist statements:

'...there is no such thing as a 'Palestinian' people.'

'The sooner the sense of 'Palestinian Idenity' is erased from the pages of history the better off we will all be, including them.'

'The idea of 'Palestinian connection to the land' is invalid.'

Pretending the Palestinians will cease to exist, that their justifiable grievances arrising from the Israeli land stealing activities since the start of the UN Mandate, that they will simply walk away from their lands and abandon their capital Jersulum just because you want to turn them into Jordanians is just plain arrogrant and crazy.

Wake up to yourself you're just usuing another Israeli contrived weasel word argument to justify Israeli illegalities.

Thinking along similar lines as David Singer, why not divide Lebanon up between Israel and Syria to halt the mayhem there? I'll answer my own question by providing an example from the region: the division of the Kurdish people into various states has not exactly halted terrorism nor government repression. So why hand over Palestinian people to the Jordanian regime (which has murdered more, believe or not, Palestinians than even the Israeli regime)?

The Palestinians have been ill-served by the PLO and Islamic fundamentalists but that doesn't mean their aspirations to obtain their own state is illegitimate.

Actually, I can go one better if we're talking about regional division: give the whole area back to a restored Turkish empire. Were there suicide bombings back in 1900 when the Ottoman empire ruled the whole area? No. There was peace.

Yes, there was peace in the Middle East under the Ottomans, JS, in fact they seemed more interested in organising the Arabs in taking over East Europe, the Bosnian Islamists being proof.

Not sure whether Iran ever came under the Ottoman Empire, however?

Regards, BB, WA.

Let's take Singer's proposal at face value. That is, divide up the West Bank etc between Jordan and Israel. That still leaves the problem of oppression by both regimes of Palestinians - just as the division of areas where Kurds live between Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria. Has the latter division of convenience resulted in peace or improvement in the conditions of Kurdish people? I suggest not.

I would also suggest that if we are discussing "peace" then why not simply get rid of Israel, divide it between the existing neighbouring regimes? True, many Jewish people would not be happy but it would be a convenient solution. Still, it would be a neat solution to the problems afflicting the Middle-East.

Muslim Palestinians happened when the Pope shook hands with Arafat with a wink and a nod. Behind this agenda was not the welfare of the Pretend Pals, but because the target was Jews: had there been no Jewish factor here - the Pretend Pals would never win a 3-line article on page 70 of any local paper. European hristianity and the Arab Muslims have been hell bent on Israel's destruction even before any land issue was relevent, or before they invented Muslim Palestinians - none of these creatures existed in 1948, when there was a multi-state arab attack on Israel, with a declared goal of genocide.

Will they also come up with Muslim Zionists one day, and demand a 4-state aka a 2-state for peace?

If a creature such as a Muslim Palestinian exists - please show us some evidence of it pre-Arafat.

This horrific, genodoal agenda lie, invented by Europe and the Arabs to negate Jews and their history and heritage, has the signs of destroying the Gospels instead. While they target Jews for still *OCCUPYING 12 %* of the land originally alloted them in the Balfour, then calling a deathly 3-state as a 2-state today [need a math teacher?], and replacing the name given the Jews by Europe now on those who antithise this name and hated it like they do Zionists today - there is another set of factors happening.

Jesus is made as a Palestinian [an impossibility considering this name was dumped on Jews 40 years after JC died]; and the Jewish Temple is deemed a Zionist Myth - which totally negates the Gospels which says one Jesus visited that mythical temple. And all of Europe plays dumb blonde.

It is clear the neo, post-60's Pretend Pals do not need a new golf course on soccer-sized Israel; nor did they need Jordan when numerous Arab states were created, much larger, and which states never existed before - unlike Israel.

At least the Nazis were honest about it.

[quote] but it would be a convenient solution [/quote]

I understand your jewish problem. How about first dividing your family as a convenient solution to the world's pollution, then all the decrepid parts dangling from your body?

Israel lives - inspite and despite your kind. Jews have never stolen anyone's lands in all their 4000 year history. Yes - let's destroy them.

At least the Nazis were honest about it.