The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Is the Navy talking up China's nuclear submarine threat? > Comments

Is the Navy talking up China's nuclear submarine threat? : Comments

By Marko Beljac, published 12/9/2008

Should the Australian Defence Force be structured and sized for going to war against China as an appendage of US Pacific Command?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. All
You have to examine the subtext of China’s intent; it is not the general population of China that poses a threat, it is the 270 million hardened – cashed up- Communist elites who have mutate in Ideology as much as Himmler’s Aryan race .
These Chinese new age Aryans in Ideology will take advantage of the fact America is rapidly in decline in Industrial –economically and intellectually decadent and on the decay.

Australia is a great land mass, and we have been under Ideological Occupation for 40 odd years; the above mention of Intellectual decay applies to Australia more so now than America; but it is trendy to punch and Bash America , and worship the Communist /Socialist satires of Ideology of insanity.

I hope your bunker is deep ; there is a distinct lack of good people left , and have been over run with the abundance of decadent morons.

I am without certainty if it is Arabic or Mandarin that will be the new Language of Australia – Well Mandarin for us, and on a precent assumption, it would be a combination of both Arabic and mandarin for everyone else.
Posted by All-, Saturday, 13 September 2008 9:26:45 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I should have explained that the example of Decadent Subversiveness in language was Dr Carl recently at a public lecture, when he explains the virtues of the new atom smasher, and the fact it cost 8 billion dollars; made the association with the cost of Three US air force stealth bombers that drop bombs and kills people; - Where as Communist and Socialist egocentricities Weaponry only tickle you to death in his comparison and philosophical positioning I suppose ; and I suppose if we are not Far loong goong (spelling?) We may be spared the wrath of body part snatching; another wonder of socialism.
Posted by All-, Saturday, 13 September 2008 9:54:40 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Any white paper from our mate K RUDD will be an exercise in futility while the navy is still run as a weak reflection of the pre WW11 british royal navy.

We have 2, or is it now 3 ships, firmly tied to the shore, as we don't have enough engineering sailors to man them. Those we do have are leaving in droves. While we have petty dictators treating these quite well trained, & competent young men as naughty children, the exodus will continue. There is no shortage of positions in "civy street" where their knowledge, & experience, will be highly paid, & treated with the respect it deserves.

Viking 13, our current patrol boats are designed to be armed with ship to ship missiles, which would make them a very effective, if expendable, weapon against any incomming force. Of course, weapons, & weapons training is expensive, so we have a make believe force. As they are not allowed to actually hit an illegal with weapons fire, they use sailors lives, rather than the weapons they do have, to stop them. What bullsh#t.

So now you want yet another bureaucray, chewing up most of the budget of a miceky mouse force of toy boats, which still wount be allowed to use its weapons, if any. And you want this, while the real navy is on restricted sea time, due to fuel restrictions, to save money. Get real.

If you want an effective navy, arm what we have, with the best there is, [for the purpose], train the blokes in using them, [that means firing some of this expensive stuff] & make the crew's life more enjoyable. You then might have a force capable of expansion.

Gettting the numbers up so you can reduce the sea time of the good sailors, to a level where divorce is not inevitable, might be a good second move, after the respect.

Then, for gods sake, don't do the labor party thing fo buying your ship design [subs] from a country who's navy run around a mountain lake.

Pinch of salt anyone?
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 13 September 2008 10:26:15 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
i don't think China will invade Australia. That's the whole point. However, you can bet if the USA which is meddling in Asia-Pacific region and is right next to the Chinese coast provoking them, that if Australia is involved and the USA use nuclear weapons on China, that if the situation escalated and our 'worthless' forces were deployed against China, that we would be an automatic target of nuclear attack. Our forces contribute almost nothing to the USA and always will. However they expose us as an extra target, which is convenient for the USA in some ways.
Posted by Steel, Saturday, 13 September 2008 2:06:21 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Australia cant defeat China and what she plans for the region (she hardly calls us "New South China" or "New China" without serious long-term plans for Australians...i.e. invade them, bind them and re-educate them and we will take their wives for our sons as well...thats no joke thanks to the One Child policy).
When we should have built defences, real defences... we blew it. Federal government after federal government kept putting it off... now its too late.
If something happens to the US nuclear umbrella... Australia is as good as finished.
Soon the USA will take up conflicts with China and/or Russia and become embroiled in war. The northern door is then open for Indonesia as well.
This the committed christians know because they watch the "signs of the times" (Luke chapter 21 and theyve read about the vast asian confederacy army called the "kings of the east" in John's Revelation (the last book in the Holy Bible...Revelation 9:16 and 16:12).
The only thing that might save a portion of Australia is decentralisation for home guard defence force.
Scatter the people away from nuclear target areas and substantiate a rural home guard.
Do less and one day the Red flag lies over Australian soil.
Posted by Gibo, Saturday, 13 September 2008 7:50:01 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I think ya got hold of yourself GIBO Whats the time frame on this prediction of yours, seeing you say it is now to late.
Posted by jason60, Saturday, 13 September 2008 8:07:23 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy