PHIL MATIMEIN - "KEEPING THEM OUT IS NOT A VIABLE LONG-TERM STRATEGY,AS THIS IS LIKELY TO INCREASE THE LONG-TERM INSTABILITY IN OUR & OTHER REGIONS THROUGH COMPETITION FOR SCARCE MONEY & RESOURCES."

The opposite could be true, if we stop bailing them out they may be forced to rethink some of the silly ideas that cause the overpopulations in their countries.
The overpopulations in these countries is our fault, how?? Their stupid MALE RELIGIOUS LEADERS are to blame for this. The silly people in these countries believe what they tell them. The world has been taking more and more and more of the muslim populations because they will not change their beliefs. Let them suffer the consequences of the failed policy of Sharia law and maybe they might get desperate enough to question the overpopulate doctrine.

We didnt have satellite TV when I grew up, we heard very little news unless it was major and so although these tribal wars and massacres were going on at the time we didnt feel as though we had to try and solve the problems of the world as we just didnt know about them.

Its time we minded our own business and let countries sought out their own disputes unless it somehow threatens us or our allies directly.

"REPORTS OF THE APARTHIED LIKE TREATMENT OF THE ABORIGINAL PEOPLE."

The Aboriginal people practice Aparthied, more like it. They can go to school, get a job, buy a house like any other Australian of any race, but they choose to live in tribes in outback areas.

Oh Dear! "WE HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION AS A COUNTRY OF DECENCY AND A FAIR GO."

We should care about international opinion. Why? sounds like coercion to me. "You be a good little Western Country and take all our overpopulations and we'll pat you on the head and say you have our international approval." Meanwhile we gain control of your country by stealth.

"A MULTICULTURAL COUNTRY LIKE AUSTRALIA IS LIVING PROOF OF THE VALUE MIGRANTS HAVE MADE TO OUR COUNTRY."

Yes, so far. The Jews may have added something to German culture in the short term too, but because they refused to intergrate they also forced the Germans to go to war, to regain control of their country. The failure of the two tribes in Rwanda to intergrate caused the massive bloodshed there too. Not to mention the bloodbath in Bosnia,the list is endless. This is the not so positive other side of multiculturalism, a bit more serious than enjoying each others food and customs. People like JAMES NORMAN don't seem to understand this, that's why I have to keep repeating it.

ssharkfin: << The Jews may have added something to German culture in the short term too, but because they refused to intergrate they also forced the Germans to go to war, to regain control of their country. >>

Yikes! That could possibly work as satire, but as serious comment... utter poison.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Some of the worst aspects of Australia's "draconian immigration system" were graphically depicted on "Four Corners" tonight. Not only did the system abuse and degrade refugees, but it apparently sent many of the poorly-trained screws nuts as well.

Some system.

This is not about immigration. This is about people like James Norman feeling good about themselves. By taking this position, Mr. Norman shows how kind and caring he is. This is the same mentality we see in much of the Western world, where people like him push for unlimited, unrestricted immigration because they are "compassionate" souls -- and much better than anybody else.

People like Mr. Notrman don't care about the consequences of their policies. They leave the mess thay make for others to deal with.

Another thing is that people like him never admit that the sole reason some of the immigrants go West is to spunge off the taxpayers. Yes, some want to work and some want to sponge.

There is also the fact that old-time immigrants came to Australia to be Australians. Now immigrants often come to live in Australia to live apart of Australia. Not only that, their values are often not Asutralian values. They bring both a "wonderful diversity of restaurants" and their hate and intolerance with them. They demand respect when they don't respect others. This also doesn't bother Mr. James.

After all, living with hate and violence or inflicting these upon others is a small price to pay so that Mr Norman can both feel good about himself and have more dining choices.

kactuz

Rpg

<<Who is Mr Right, what did he say, when did he say it? How rudely dismissive to tell me my opinion actually was perpetuated by someone else…>>

Mr Right contributed to this forum on Monday and you and he are both wrong about boat people.

<<it was all about the boats that the overseas press got hold of, that the author claims - was in their media, nothing to do with putting people in detention centers who came by plane, that got no press. Are you saying the bad press was about plane people, not boat people?>>

The facts are that:

1. The media focus exclusively on ‘the boat people’ because (a) they are too lazy to investigate the facts; (b) boat people sell more newspapers because they provide more ‘colour’, more drama and more conflict and (c) politicians feed the media the red herrings of ‘leaky’ boats, children ‘overboard’ and people smugglers.

2. More unauthorised asylum seekers arrive in Australia by plane than by boat. In 2006-2007, 1388 people were refused immigration clearance at Australian airports and were detained or deported; but only 290 people who arrived by boat were refused immigration clearance. (DIAC 2008). This pattern has been the case for many years.

3. The Australian people generally get their 'information' from media, regurgitate misunderstanding and the myths are perpetuated.

I raise the issue of foreign workers (a high proportion of whom stay beyond their permitted period and become citizens) to make the point that the importation of labour is more important to the EU than detention and that the alleged adoption of Australian methods is grossly exaggerated.

2legit

I’d respond to your post if I could understand what it is you claim I think.

Sharkfin

To claim the Jews caused Germany to go to war would be the sickest joke I’ve read on OLO. But it’s better to have this blatant racism out in the open than having cowardly vigilante violence.

A number of the posters here need to consider what would be the situation
if numbers like those that are arriving uninvited onto the shores of
Europe, were to arrive on our shores.

Woomera would be expanded by five to ten times its present size.
They have an enormous problem compared to ours and they have a land
border as well giving them trouble.

So do not take a holier than thou attitude about this international problem.
Also it is not about asylum seakers either it is simply about economic
migration. In future years it will get much worse as energy gets very
much more expensive.