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Australia exports its draconian immigration system : Comments

By James Norman, published 15/9/2008

The EU is moving towards an immigration policy that includes tightly secured borders, stiff penalties and forced detention.

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The writer of the article is not aware or will not admit that what is a dragon for one is a guardian for another. The Howard government had realized that to guard the country from a flood of unauthorized illegal migrants had to take the necessary hard measures that would effectively stop it and prevent a repeat of what happened to other countries. The European countries for years with their loose and so called humanitarian migration laws, especially toward the peoples of their former colonies, had planted the seeds of conflict within their own societies, as Enoch Powell with great insight predicted for Britain. With the awakening blow of 9/11 Europe was rudely shaken from her somnambulistic humanitarianism and was forced to adopt the Australian paradigm. So we are all ‘RACISTS’ now.

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Posted by Themistocles, Monday, 15 September 2008 6:48:04 PM
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I wholly agree with daggetts first paragraph.

Similarly socreatease

Your right, Mr Right, the success of mandatory detention was not the people who ended up in detention but those who thought better of trying circumvent australias right to decide who should be allowed to settle here.

Likewise, keith got their first with his

" 'Australia exports its draconian immigration system'

No it didn't. Europe adopted Australia's policy... because it worked.”

Of course the internationalist swill will beat their breasts and rent their garments but who cares, maybe we should review work for the dole and make sure the idle and shiftless left forced to enjoy gainful work-experience, away from their indolent postings here.
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 15 September 2008 7:14:24 PM
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Spikey .. <<The current ALP government can dismantle the detention centres because the policy worked, the boats stopped.>> A falsehood also perpetuated by Mr Right. Most detainees arrived by plane - but leaky boats make better media stories.

What? Who is Mr Right, what did he say, when did he say it? How rudely dismissive to tell me my opinion actually was perpetuated by someone else, pompous is the word I'm looking for. Negative stories about Australia, see para 2 of the article, in Europe, were about the boats.

Do you not remember the Tampa, also Nauru and Manus Island detention centers, or Christmas Island - it was all about the boats that the overseas press got hold of, that the author claims - was in their media, nothing to do with putting people in detention centers who came by plane, that got no press. Are you saying the bad press was about plane people, not boat people?

Did you read the article .. that was the point, that Europe is adopting, what the author thinks is, a Draconian Immigration System and a blight on Australia. They like it so much, they are importing it, because it worked is my guess.

Your next point, I have no idea why you have quoted some obscure fact relating to guest workers within the EU - do you read what you post? Test it for relevance, so you don't appear to be just trolling through the comments abusing folks opinions, please.

Thanks goodness we have you here to tell everyone how wrong they are in relation to the article posted.(that's sarcasm)
Posted by rpg, Monday, 15 September 2008 7:44:32 PM
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Keith, Themistocles and Col Rouge et al are right on the money.

The measure of success is exactly that there are no more boats full of dubious characters hiding behind women and children trying to force their entry into Australia.

...and this on the very day another bunch of latent Islamic terrorists have been found guilty in an Australian court.

There are not too many countries on the world that are free from Muslim excesses--and we should keep it that way even if it means having a tougher than normal border control arrangements, and sometimes getting it wrong.
Posted by bigmal, Monday, 15 September 2008 7:51:04 PM
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Spikey, Spikey, Spikey...
If you seek asylum you are obliged to repair to the first available sympathetic country, not one several overland/overseas trips away! If you can afford a boat trip/flight, you can afford to undergo due process, no? Internment is enforced due process. A price to be paid for trying to circumvent the system. A tangible consequence, if you like. Still better than where they came from, though, isn't it?
Surprise, surprise! I was not amongst the ashamed. My conscience carries no guilt, real or imagined. Our country, our rules.

Australians overseas, on the whole, would be paying their way whilst travelling under a legitimately obtained travel document paid for with hard cash obtained working lawfully. Oh, and in most cases travelling by serviceable aeroplane, so as to reduce the risk of drowning.

Do YOU know anything about Australia's invasion history? Why do you think the Tasmanian aborigines were a distinct and separate race from their northern cousins? Could it be that they were driven south by aggressive behaviour from said cousins, hmmmm?

So, the indigenous Australians had their homeland "invaded" by a race of people...who ruled from strength and became indigenous Australians...who also had their homeland "invaded" by a third wave of people... who ruled from strength and became indigenous Australians...who had their homeland "invaded" by a wave of WHITE people, who because of skin colour can't rule from strength or become indigenous? Is that your proposition? Really? A bit racist, isn't it?(lol!)
That's quite an opinion you've got there :-)
Posted by 2legit, Monday, 15 September 2008 8:36:32 PM
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Too many come to this country for the wrong reason,they believe the ads that it's the rich country. If this was the case why are there so many living on the street, a country where pensioners are eating pet food amongst other things, instead of healthy meals. What right do people have to claim refugee status, claim medical benefits as well as welfare yet they have never payed taxes in our country.So tax payers are keeping them,because they claim to be refugees. It's time this government started to look after Australians first, the one's that worked and payed taxes and help build this country. We don't need free-loaders here just because it makes certain ministers look good.
Posted by Anng, Monday, 15 September 2008 8:52:35 PM
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