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No smoking hot spot : Comments

By David Evans, published 22/7/2008

There has not been a public debate about the causes of global warming: most are not aware of the most basic salient facts.

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It's a pity that David Evans' comments won't be read by the politicians. The Coalition has a golden opportunity to distance itself from the Labor party on the issue of climate change. Unfortunately it hasn't got the guts to take the step to repudiate climate change alarmism.
Posted by hotair, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 4:14:50 PM
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So the world has cooled since 2001 has it? Do people expect some sort of linear progression of temperature increase? It doesn't happen that way, which is why it is misleading and irresponsible to take six years of data and try to make sweeping judgements from it. Take a hundred years and you might get closer to the mark.

Check out this article and you'll see that 2007 was one of the warmest years on record.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080116114150.htm

Also, carbon is only one of the gases that contributes to climate change. Methane and water vapour are also signficant. Just focusing on one aspect of a system that comprises numerous factors just doesn't wash. Check out the ice-coverage of the arctic (and no it isn't reducing because of undersea volcanoes, they don't produce anywhere near enough heat), the collapse of the Wilkins ice-shelf in Antarctica, the trend in severe weather around the world, and the potential for huge methane releases in the arctic ocean due to very small rises in sea temperature. A holistic view is needed rather than concentrating on one factor here and there.

Finally, I wouldn't necessarily put my trust in an engineer who has done some carbon accounting, I'd rather listen to someone who has a broad experience of the science invovled. All those people who want to know more should check out www.realclimate.org for some science and rationale debate.
Posted by Phil Matimein, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 4:53:11 PM
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Interesting call to discredit "an engineer who has done some carbon accounting", Phil.

Instead you would recognize the scientific meta-authority of such uber-monetarists as Stern, Garnaut and Sachs - all World Bank men - who have proven track records not in actual relevant science, but in propping up imperialist funny-money bubbles.

Buying "carbon credits", paying fart taxes or other fictitious notions is probably worse than buying indulgences from a Borgia Vatican hierarchy; at least the Renaissance popes let the people know that it was all based on faith - not "science".
Posted by mil-observer, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 6:30:46 PM
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What a refreshing article.

It is unfashionable to tell the truth about the global warming scam, but fortunately, David does not mind being unfashionable.

In clear language, he sets out why we should not allow ourselves to be led into severe error, by the warmists.

Remember that all life on earth is carbon based, and carbon dioxide is a life enhancing gas, a most valuable part of our atmosphere, despite the tiny proportion it comprises.

There is no proof that CO2 causes warming, but plenty of proof that it enhances plant growth, including trees and food crops. It is despicable to attempt to demonise it.

Its detractors are the likes of Gore and the IPCC, Flannery, Garnaut, Hansen, and the host of others who have proven that they cannot be trusted or believed, but are aware that a lie repeated often enough, to enough people, will eventually be believed by many of them.

I look forward to more people, like David, repeating the truth often enough, to enough people, to prove that it works for those in the right as well as those on the left.
Posted by Leo Lane, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 7:35:26 PM
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Indigo Jones rip, would be proud of you David Evans. Considering Kevin Rudd lived on a farm just up the road from this talented long range weather forecaster who succeeded in providing our rural community with a reliable service which we could plan our future with some certainty.
Posted by Dallas, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 8:29:48 PM
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Country girl, I am going to side with CJ and Shadyoasis. This, without a doubt, is the warmest winter I can remember in Brisbane. Last year was the warmest until now.

I ride my pushy to work, and I take a deep interest in whether my fingers will turn blue in the morning. They have in the past, and some years I have worn wear ski gloves to try and combat it. Today, smack bang in what should be the coldest part of the year, it was a toss up as to whether a jumper was needed. This is a first. It wasn't really needed for the morning, but I thought it might be a bit cooler for the ride home and that turned out to be the case.

Last summer was wet and was proceeded by a warm winter. Maybe the warm winter again signals a return of the La Nina for next summer. Here's hoping. Given the last 10 years we are due for a few. Global warming isn't supposed to effect our rainfall too much here in Queensland.
Posted by rstuart, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 8:34:56 PM
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