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By Helen Lobato, published 30/5/2008What is so good about organic milk as opposed to conventional milk? And why is raw milk illegal?
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Posted by dickie, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 8:10:59 PM
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*While I prefer to purchase organic products wherever possible, I also endeavour to glean as much information as possible on the product.
There is cause for concern when farmers in Australia have availed themselves of free "fertilisers" which happen to be human faeces* Ah the joys of organic farming lol. Its all certified you know, no superphosphate or potash from Canada in there at all! Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 9:05:22 PM
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Yabby
Your propensity to manipulate the truth and your hatred of organic farming is well known on OLO. None of the farms mentioned in the link I provided are certified organic. Lol! Posted by dickie, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 9:25:43 PM
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*A recent Landline episode featured a group of farmers in Young NSW producing high nutrient compost for those wishing to decrease the use of articifical fertilizers.
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2006/s2240246.htm I would ask you to keep an open mind Yabby,* It seems that only Sydney sludge is good enough for those organic growers :) That was posted by Pelican, an organic grower, on 31-5. Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 9:49:05 PM
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cornflower, despite being raised on raw milk from our then dairy I do not advocate raw milk consumption, and definately not for infants. Casein exists in pastuerised milk too, and is in effect the milk protein. I don't see the problem with it, and I was wondering what made it "nasty" in trades view.
So how many aboriginal kids suffer allergies or asthma? "There was a much lower rate of allergy amongst the Aboriginal children" http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/helthrpt/stories/s330451.htm Thanks digiwigi, I'll have a look, but i did read this the other day: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23704825-23289,00.html Posted by rojo, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 12:08:35 AM
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dickie,
"why we humans are the only mammals who continue to drink milk after weaning?" Not true, dogs and cats love the stuff, they like other animals just don't have a domesticated cow collection and can't get it themselves. They probably would if they could. The International Osteoporosis Foundation doesn't present a negative link between milk and osteoporosis(that seems to be a conclusion drawn by peta,viva or similar groups and spread amongst themselves and gullible followers). Quite the contrary, "Lactose intolerance has been shown to be associated with low bone mass and increased risk of fracture due to low milk (calcium) intake" "Studies in children and adolescents have shown that supplementation with calcium, dairy calcium-enriched foods or milk enhances the rate of bone mineral acquisition" http://www.iofbonehealth.org/facts-and-statistics.html Human sewerage(treated) should be used as fertiliser, otherwise the nutrients are simply being stripped from farmland . We can make nitrogen fertiliser easily enough while natural gas supplies last, but known deposits of accessible phosphates and potassium are limited. http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200609/s1746303.htm Of course there will be some like Rosemary Morley who can't accept natural cycles, and that recycling happens elsewhere in the world- natural or otherwise. By the way it was the biological plant's waste that was class 4 landfill, not the human faeces component (from your link). All endeavors should be made to keep such waste seperate, it's not legal to pour it down the drain in WA is it Posted by rojo, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 1:57:21 AM
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While I prefer to purchase organic products wherever possible, I also endeavour to glean as much information as possible on the product.
Interestingly, those countries who have the highest consumption of cows' milk also have the highest rate of osteoporosis.
More surprising is Yabby's naivety of agricultural practices in his own state (and others.) There is cause for concern when farmers in Australia have availed themselves of free "fertilisers" which happen to be human faeces suitable only for disposal at a Class 4 landfill.
It's a "solution" being embraced by governments around the world. Farmers get free fertiliser and officials wave goodbye to their toxic sludge.
However, much of these free "biosolids" or sludges in WA have come from the infamous hazardous waste plant, Brookdale, which was covertly handling PCBs and the most hazardous industrial wastes in the state. These biosolids contain heavy metals, unmetabolised pharmaceuticals etc.
"Cornell University in the US raised more concerns in a study on sludge use. Among its chief concerns was the presence of dioxins.
"It said: "Some crops grown on sludge-treated land are fed to animals, cows and other herbivores that ingest soil as they graze. The greatest route of human exposure to dioxin, a human carcinogen, is through consumption of meat and dairy products."
"Lee Bell, of the WA Contaminated Sites Alliance, said people had every right to be worried. "We only test for a small range of contaminants and we have guidelines that are not legally enforceable," he said.
"There is not an adequate regulatory regime in place to control the use of biosolids in our agricultural markets and it is very easy for contamination to get into our food supply by biosolids."
Information on the use of human faeces and sludges in Australia's agriculture industry is suppressed - consumers are kept in the dark. There is no requirement for labelling.
Consumers are entitled to more!
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,15729670-2761,00.html