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By Peter West, published 9/5/2008Understanding an intimate relationship: the adult man exists in a relationship with his mother that can’t be resolved.
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Posted by HRS, Friday, 9 May 2008 10:42:18 AM
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Interesting but pointless. A man will be what ever his fortitude and strengths that carry him. Some of the greatest men in history had no family at all. We are all dealt with the hand of circumstances and sometimes the perfect family is not always the best one.
Thats life. EVO Posted by evolution, Friday, 9 May 2008 11:01:50 AM
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I found the authors essay to be quite superficial.
By contrast please check out these essays which point out that our childhood Oedipal Patterning in relation to both parents runs hell deep. And that the ONLY thing that we are ever doing is dramatising our unresolved mommy-daddy issues. And all of the time, moment to moment. The necessary key to growing up for real is to outgrow these child-hood patternings. Until then we have the emotional maturity of a two year old. Which is where most of us at at. Very few people in the history of humankind have ever truly grown up. 1. http://www.beezone.com/AdiDa/oedipalarticles.html.htm Posted by Ho Hum, Friday, 9 May 2008 11:57:25 AM
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Ho Hum
I don’t know of many men that want to have sex with their mother, or their father. I think that is just another slur on men. Posted by HRS, Friday, 9 May 2008 1:12:16 PM
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"Some special moments for me recently were sharing with my grandson a blue-tongue lizard"
Interesting concept, did you cook it first? Posted by onemack, Friday, 9 May 2008 2:09:54 PM
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HRS. My post was to you. Thank you Mr west. My mother and I still have a very close relationship and my father as well, but I would prefer to exercise and promote independence rather than pull the strings of those who didnt have the luxury. This can be very detrimental.
I have also had friends like HRS explains, and many of them are doing better than me. I think that it doesnt matter where you come from or what walk of life, just as long as you have the support and balance that we all have right too. Its when no-one cares, that's where the problem begins. I have seen life on the streets myself, and the out-comes of rejection was a reason a lot of them didnt survive. My reason for being where I was, was the big bid to leave home explore the world( plus an argument with my parents)( 24 years old ) and I saw it in full colour. I have helped out in the kitchens of sydney to feed the homeless and have talked to hundreds of men and everyone has a different story. But it was nice to go home. Iam sure my parents will past one-day and I will never forget the fun and love we shared, with the hard times and the goodness, that only a guardian can provide. All the best. EVO Posted by evolution, Friday, 9 May 2008 4:39:30 PM
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peter it seems that you wanted but failed to assess your mum\mother to reasonable standard to be useful to you...this may help...
the full range of where she may lay is 'hollywood mother image' we see repetitively on tv dramas\movies, gentle caring supportive harmless women- to other extreme of queen snake of her domain which we never see in full extent on tv/movies, ie her home wherein all who born or live in relationship with her is her possession to do as she wills for her own pleasure and benefit and act to live with fear of her...best is assume your mother at middle of this extremes... then answer following; -did she help you develop your own 'body_space' and how to be confident within or invaded it constantly by telling you what to do,wear,talk,think... -do you remember/think about your childhood ie 6 and less, and relate well to children 6 and less(you have to become a child yourself to relate well)...if yes then you had happier childhood, if not then you lived in fear and insecurity and your psychological defence is blocking memory when totally dependent, primarily on your mother(makes for control over child)... -when trying to resolve problems with her, did she acknowledge her facts and faults and 'public image'she put on...or stick to critical attack and self 'blameless/other peoples faulty image' I think now safely know which side of scale your mother was/is...and divide scale on each side to 3parts, then if you want see where more detail with further questions... why all this...if each moment of your life you dont feel your emotions responding in its full and free range...ie feel half alive, or 'lost your humour' etc then childhood becomes very important to deal with to get on path to emotional recovery...and yes mother/mum features big here positive and negative but she will rarely tell you what she really did to you... Sam Ps~if she was in the wrong half...then state exactly what she was...dont add or take away anything...and feel yourself healing and air around your life clearing... Posted by Sam said, Saturday, 10 May 2008 1:06:25 PM
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The author of this article speaks in the perspective of his own experiences. Times have changed and so has the mother-son relationship. In the current climate I know of no mother who wants to tie their son to their apron strings. We try to grow them up to be independent, critical thinking adults who take responsibility for their own actions. We desperately want them to be successful adults who can operate in the real world.
Above all we don't not want them to be inwardly thinking, navel gazing airheads. Posted by KOLLONTAI, Monday, 12 May 2008 2:37:18 AM
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Thanks to a very usual negligence and illiteracy of local medical professionals my mother-a very practical and active more-than-three-decade-experienced doc herself, passed away much younger then 95-y.old, and although relations were seemingly steady, her children feel themselves simply ignored by her lack of an elementary attention to a family future factually.
Perhaps, people should base their relations on this world realities rather than relaying on any type of future reincarnation, neither in Catholic nor other families. Posted by MichaelK., Monday, 12 May 2008 11:51:01 AM
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""Perhaps, people should base their relations on this world realities rather than relaying on any type of future reincarnation, neither in Catholic nor other families""
Posted by MichaelK Wot? Posted by onemack, Monday, 12 May 2008 1:23:25 PM
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Men and their Mothers: Comments?
Don't get me started.............. Posted by Ginx, Monday, 12 May 2008 5:00:10 PM
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onemack's "Wot" is exactly this topic what of is.
Posted by MichaelK., Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:59:57 PM
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"onemack's "Wot" is exactly this topic what of is."
Posted by MichaelK., Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:59:57 PM Wot? Posted by Ginx, Saturday, 24 May 2008 12:43:33 AM
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And Ginx there is.
Posted by MichaelK., Saturday, 24 May 2008 3:45:09 PM
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Wot?
Posted by Ginx, Saturday, 24 May 2008 9:36:43 PM
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Nearly ¼ of children have now been abducted from their fathers. So for many adults in the future, their reflection of their childhood will be a day care center and half a family.
What men will think of their mothers in the future remains largely unknown, and with the constant negative portrayal of males by feminists, what mothers will think of their sons in the future remains largely unknown also.