yay, another feminist

Author> "Why do “Muslim countries” think Australian women are oppressed?"

How dare they!, right?

> "The only thing I can think of is that Western women are perceived as objects of desire."

That's called human biology, not oppression.

> "wearing the veil is based on the idea that women are dangerous"

I love this, because it's extremely hypocritical and symptomatic of the disease of western righteousness.

IN AUSTRALIA, women are FORCED to wear chest pieces to "protect" us men and other women from harm caused by looking at the breasts. THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. Also, looking at western civilisation, it has had the exactly the same hangups as the middle east. Nothing is unique to Islam here. Nothing.

> "But selective quotes like the above only enforce the view that is forced upon the public by all politically correct media: i.e. the view that we are not to engage in any debate on the headscarf because all Muslim women wear them out of their own free will."

And now he tries to foist his own political correct feminism onto others... hilarious...

I hope my next discussion is not 'censored' by the adminstrators.

Indeed. When you think about it, virtually everything that's been written in this thread about the headscarf could have been said about the Wonder Bra - and with similar profundity.

I really don't care what Muslim women do.

A good article indeed.

The wearing of the headscarf or hijab has nothing to with a woman’s modesty but rather, is linked to the teaching of hate in Islam. Women without the headscarf is viewed as immoral, a prostitute -- worthy of hell. The idea is to indoctrinate Muslims to hate women not wearing the headscarf.

In fact, it is not surprising to read of many Muslim men raping and murdering non-Muslim women.

Hear about this teaching from an ex-Muslim himself, Tawfiq Hamid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxfo11A7XuA

BenL.

See “the Infidel” by Ayan Hirsi Ali.

It’s just laughable to suggest that women in Muslim countries like Saudi or Pakistan believe western women are being oppressed because they don’t wear the scarf. How would anyone even know what women in Saudi want? They are reduced to the status of treasured family pets. Can anyone honestly suggest that womens rights in virtually all Islamic countries are not centuries behind what we have in the west?

The scarf is one thing, but what about the Niqab or the burqa?

1) Do you understand that Muslim women are supposed to wear such things to reduce their desirability to men because women can’t be trusted with their sexuality?

2) What excuse is there, then, for making children wear the scarf?

3) Do you understand that the wearing of scarves and other accoutrements has coincided with the resurgence of extreme pan-Islamism.

4) Do you realise that many young Muslim women without any history of scarf wearing in their families have suddenly taken up the habit.

5) Can you explain young Asian Muslim people wearing the traditional dress of Saudi Arabia as is becoming increasingly common?

It isn’t about respect for religion. It is about support for a particular brand of Islamism which is currently experiencing a massive resurgence. This new, literalist, pan-Islamic strain is as incompatible with western liberalism as Nazism. I’m certainly not suggesting that all Muslim women who wear scarves are devotees of literalist Islamic orders.

However, we as a society need to know more about the types of Islam which are being practiced. I certainly accept that mystic Sufism is a religion of peace. However wahabism, deobandism and other virulent strains of extreme and literalist Islam are finding many new adherents across the Islamic world; particularly in the west with second and third generation migrants. The scarf itself is merely a symbol and an irrelevant one, in and of itself. However the resurgence of hidjab is a pointer to the change in religious life among muslims. Unfortunately the change is not a favourable one; for the west anyway.

"......and strongly argue that we can argue about the fact that we should not be arguing about it because we do not understand the Muslims but we cannot argue against the howling oppression inherent in the forcing of women to wear it."
Posted by Plaza-Toro, Friday, 18 April 2008 6:57:53 PM

.......er,...right....

You write departmental policy don't you?