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The headscarf is no innocent piece of clothing : Comments
By Kees Bakhuijzen, published 18/4/2008Do Muslim women wear the veil out of their own free will or are they forced to wear it?
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Posted by Philip Tang, Friday, 25 April 2008 3:40:31 AM
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Billy Z,
I don’t actually see how you figure it is a correction. There was absolutely nothing incorrect in what I said. I’m happy for the banning of all religious items at schools. As for the rest, Paranoid, xenophobic, racist. Do you always resort to calling names when your intellect fails you? If so you must have a pretty big supply. I challenge you to deny any of what I have put to DJS. Even though I post confrontational letters all the time, I am not surprised that the idiot soft left would call me a xenophobe or a racist when I address a muslim in the same manner. In fact it is you that is the racist. I didn’t for one second considers DJS race or religion when I wrote my post. However it seems that you think there should be different rules for posting to Muslims. Should I have been nicer than I normally am because of her religion? Because that is a racist idea. By the way I’m not xenophobic or racist in the least. I fully believe in the importance of offering safe haven for refugees. I also believe in normal migration. I just happen to believe that if you want to come to Australia, you should make some commitment to becoming an Australian. And that means leaving behind any customs which are in direct confrontation with ours. Its called Assimilation. But I imagine a brainless soft-lefty like yourself wouldn’t understand. Calling people names is much easier. Ginx Not agreed. Posted by Paul.L, Friday, 25 April 2008 1:27:34 PM
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Melody, I do think we could put a different spin on the “comparative” freedoms enjoyed by your Muslim friends. Sure the Tunisian friend is liberated from underwear, but her small gesture only serves to emphasize how repressive the outer garment is.
Whole generations of western women dress conservatively (despite what the magazines are flogging), to suit comfort, climate, wallet, conformity to workplace regulations, or to fit a perception of what is appropriate. Western women may be “fashion victims” but the “victimhood” is metaphorical and voluntary, not real or enforced. (Steel’s insistence aside). Once upon a time, Tunisia was seen as the flagship of women’s equality in the muslim world. This interview with Kyadija Cherif emphasis that the equality laws were only there for the sake of appearances. http://www.humanrights-geneva.info/A-setback-to-women-s-rights-in,3002 Her group, the oldest female right’s organisation in Tunisia, even published a press release calling on women to recognize that “the veil is a symbol of imprisonment”. The concept of adopting the clothes and hoping the religion will follow, is hopeful but shallow. I could try putting on a bikini, but my pre-pregnant body won’t result. I valued your insight as a Muslim, I hope you value mine: Christian women dress conservatively as an outward expression of their faith, in an unassuming way. You wouldn’t pick them out in a crowd. When we get together as a group, we share, pray and read the bible. We don’t talk of divorcing our husbands, we pray for our relationships to endure. There is no concept of “private” and “public” Christianity. Could fashion choice become a salvation issue? For example, if I was buying something for the express purpose of seducing someone else’s husband or to be offensive or to impersonate a man or even as an outward expression of my vanity. Yes, fashion may become a stumbling block on the slippery slope toward disbelief. The question is, do I acknowledge the work that Christ has done to secure my salvation? For in the end, I am saved DESPITE of what I do. This is true freedom Posted by katieO, Friday, 25 April 2008 3:23:37 PM
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Katie0
Could you please elucidate: "The question is, do I acknowledge the work that Christ has done to secure my salvation? For in the end, I am saved DESPITE of what I do. This is true freedom." Freedom from what exactly? Posted by Fractelle, Friday, 25 April 2008 5:20:15 PM
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But I imagine a brainless soft-lefty like yourself wouldn’t understand. Calling people names is much easier.
Ginx Not agreed. Posted by Paul.L, Friday, 25 April 2008 1:27:34 PM "...a brainless soft-lefty/..calling people names is much easier..." (Quote: Soft-left-Paully) Well.., you got that right!! (Time for celebration; that's one out of....er,..um..). Go back to bed. That really must have taxed your Hard-Right brain. Posted by Ginx, Friday, 25 April 2008 5:31:31 PM
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There is a lot of naivety being expressed here. Right now in our own universities Islamofascism is taking root. The Griffith University Vice-Chanceloor has even been caught plagiarising from Wikipedia to push a pro-Wahhabist agenda because Griffith's new Islamist Centre is being funded by the terror-financiers Saudi government!
http://culturewarriorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/04/queenslands-professors-of-terror-or.html Posted by Anzac Harmony, Friday, 25 April 2008 5:52:37 PM
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In Canada a Muslim father killed his daughter (Aqsa Pervez) for refusing to wear the hijab. She was a bad Muslim and refused to practice Islam. Thus her father carried out a “fard” of Allah (4.89) and sunna of Mohammed by killing her thus he guaranteed a place in paradise for himself according to the following aya:
Q 9.111; “Allah guarantees paradise for those who kill or are killed for Allah”
Read about Islamic teaching of head covering in Koran and the hadith.
http://www.islam-watch.org/ayeshaahmed/cair-lies-about-aqsa-parvez-death-burqa.htm
“Moderate Islam is more deadly because while the terrorists are clear enemies, the moderates make inroads into `infidel’ lands, and deceive the host cultures until the terrorists could do the dirty work. Without the moderate Islamic façade, the terrorists cannot survive because they will be quickly exposed. History is replete with example after example of this typically Muslim deceitful strategy of advance”. Dr. Habira, a London professor and an ex-Muslim