Dear Lev

don't mind me, I usaully take a rather 'colorful' and extreme position on these things, but for the record... as far as I am concerned, from the day that the Arab/muslims of Gaza elected Hamas they become an active enemy of Israel and the only response to that election result they can fairly expect is total war, and exile. I mentioned the Hamas Charter above, and aside from everything else, it should be read by all of us in detail.

That foundation document spells out Islamic theology regarding the status of the land, and no amount of pussy footing around it will alter it.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for Gaza's arabs who voted for Hamas, because they did so in the knowledge of what Hamas stands for re Israel. My only sympathies are for the young children who are quickly and completely brainwashed with hatred from the age they can speak... they are innocent victims.

I have yet to see any image of a Knesset member brandishing a sword from the pulpit and stirring up murderous hate as done by the Palestinian Sheikh/Imam in the video I linked to above.

I didn't know you take services, but I'm wondering in which tradition? Uniting? No matter, if you do have a knowledge of the books I listed, surely..surely you know how 'it works' over there. I cannot seriously imagine anyone knowing this can hold a dream of all Arabs and Jews living happily together. The only condition where they did in the past, was as Dhimmi's to Arab masters.. do you deny this?

David perhaps you are living on silly pills, I am not sure but Hamas only exists because Israel made them exist because they didn't want to deal with Fatah and the corruption that still exists among many of them today. Hamas was a charity organisation that did not very much at all beside feed people when Fatah would not.

I don't give a toss what you claim their silly charter claims, precisely how could they destroy Israel without murdering 1.4 million Palestinians living in Israel and what precisely could he do it with? Israel has over 200 nukes stored away for future use and in their nice democratic society they jailed the whistleblower for 18 years.

I also don't care too much about biblical nonsense, it is just an old book mate. It is as sensible as believing that Pratchett's diskworld or Rowling's Hogwarts are real things.

The so-called Jewish faith started with arabs and is just another silly god-bothering load of old cobblers used to justify brutal repression and oppression.

Israel does not want peace with anyone. They want Hertzl's dream - all the land from the Litani river in Lebanon, across half of Jordan, part of Syria, all of Palestine and the Sinai and they don't want any arabs anywhere in sight.

That is and always has been their charter so for the head of the zionist council in Australia to say differently makes me want to puke.

And maybe they are surrounded by arabs because they plonked themselves in the middle of arabia because the first so-called jews were arabs.

There are lots of things I have been accused over the past 40 years but Boaz David's accusation not being up to date with the Israeli media is definitely a novel one. I find it an entertaining insult to be directed at someone who is a media monitor and has regularly read the Knesset exchanges in Ma'ariv, Ynet and the Hebrew Haaretz. But let me get it straight: the Arabs members of the Knesset are saying something in the Knesset that makes their potential voter choose to vote for someone else. That's why Boaz David thinks there are not enough of them in the Knesset. Pray tell: are they being too radical or too moderate for their target audience?

Sol

Why Boaz David drags the Bible into this I don,t know,using the bible for anything is about the stupidest thing I have heard.
Its a bunch of Fairy tales David, you believe the world is 6000 odd years old,you should go to the US theres lots on Nutters over there who take the Bible literally go join em.

Israel is the outpost of Western civilization surrounded by myriads of religiously inspired fanatic tribal barbarians whose goal is the destruction of Israel. Anyone who is not a rabid incorrigible anti-semite capable of making an objective assessment of the great dangers Israel is facing before an irreconcilable, malicious, and deadly enemy, would rush to be a "volunteer", if not in the military sense, in this “army” defending this outpost of Western civilization. The great achievements of the latter demand no less.

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