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Give this ad the boot : Comments

By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 14/3/2008

One women's magazine paid its respects to women on International Women's Day with a fashion ad of murdered woman.

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Re Passy “Fair go for women “

I would recommend two pamphlets for people who want to understand the link between the society we live in and violence against women.

They are both by socialists.

Sandra Bloodworth "Rape, Sexual Violence and Capitalism"

Sheila McGregor "Rape, pornography and capitalism
Posted by Passy, Saturday, 15 March 2008 1:42:37 PM

Re this thread

Two pamphlets by socialists might be worth a read for those wanting to understand where the seeds of violence in our present society come from. They are:

Sandra Bloodworth "Rape, Sexual Violence and Capitalism"

Sheila McGregor "Rape, pornography and capitalism".
Posted by Passy, Saturday, 15 March 2008 2:01:57 PM

Recycling the drivel of the left eh Passy?

The point with it is this, this twaddle presumes “capitalism” is the cause (hence the title) and “socialism” is the savior.

Socialism takes a theory and tries to find a situation which it fits.
It sees the opportunity to create a divide, like wedge politics.

The ensuing outcry for equality enables the socialist to declare “let the government regulate on behalf of everyone” and another liberty is trampled under foot to the point you end up with what Lenin himself said

“the goal of socialism is communism”.

Check the reality, libertarian-capitalist innovation and entrepreneurial skills brought women the timesaving devises which unchained them from the kitchen sink, enabled them to communicate on threads like this and empowered them (equally with men) to communicate with anyone else around the world, not socialism.

All that socialism actually offers is equality in poverty and equality of repression.

It is a Jesuit maxim: "Give me the child until he is seven and I will give you the man.”

It was Lenin who said “Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever”

However, a libertarian-capitalist philosophy seeks to ensure all children are empowered to make up their own mind, rather than simply repeat the indoctrinated dogma of the despot.
Posted by Col Rouge, Saturday, 15 March 2008 2:43:51 PM
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"Wedge politics" is a tool of neo-cons on the right. Howard turned Australia into anation of people who hated

- chardonnay sipping lefties
- muslims
- aborigines
- unionists

The left prides itself on its "social inclusion" agenda.

I see the Grand Prix doesn't grab your attention either.
Posted by billie, Saturday, 15 March 2008 2:51:34 PM
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Good post

Posted by Vanilla, Saturday, 15 March 2008 2:38:37 PM

Congradulations on teasing out Melinda's issue.

Sounds like you must have some very interesting dinner time talks.
Posted by JamesH, Saturday, 15 March 2008 3:06:53 PM
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Posted by Romany, Friday, 14 March 2008 10:42:17 PM

Not offended Romany. Truly. I absolutely agree with your further comments in the quoted post.

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HRS,

" How can you be free to explore if your every utterance is tortured and pronounced “sexist” and if the reaction to every critique is “oh, so you’re blaming men now, huh!” " (Quote Vanilla)

I'm swiping this from Vanilla because I could not put it better as a response to you.

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Onya Billie! ( But you're nissing into the pind, I'm afraid!)

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My view has changed not a jot. I care little for the WLM-,(agree with your comments Passy)-, or the political perspective of the author. Not in this case.

I've had it with this type of crap. It crosses both genders, and frankly I think ad. agencies need a fair bollocking!

They won't change though, if we continue to see this as OK.

Political Correctness v Freedom of Speech is with us always!
Posted by Ginx, Saturday, 15 March 2008 4:35:12 PM
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Maybe thats a tranny.

Careful how ya look at stuff. After a while all you see is what reflects your own bias.
Posted by trade215, Saturday, 15 March 2008 4:36:24 PM
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Fashion to die for! This is the visual equivalent of the catch phrase the advertiser is pushing. It is a catch phrase women often use, so I’m not sure just how repugned we should all feel, and why Melinda would relate it to that other favourite imagery of men’s knuckle dragging and callosity (usual implications being Neanderthal, or violence against women). Shocking as it may be, surely this is just an example of “art” in advertising. Some of us must be buying it.

Apologies to Vanilla and Romany for past misdemeanours.
Posted by Seeker, Saturday, 15 March 2008 6:20:33 PM
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