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Give this ad the boot : Comments

By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 14/3/2008

One women's magazine paid its respects to women on International Women's Day with a fashion ad of murdered woman.

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"Ginx,
The term 'self-righteous prats' is abuse.

You must be aiming to win the most abusive feminist award on OLO. There is quite a lot of competition."
Posted by HRS, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 5:51:00 PM

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"......and bugger the self-righteous prats who think that something is “loathsome” or should be banned for being in bad taste.
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 12:20:06 AM

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This is the second time you have got things all wrong Horase. It's a bad habit. Give it up.

As I dislike the innuendo of the reference 'other posters'....,:-

1) The 'strange bedfellows' comment was directed at TB (Col Rouge to you), and Vanilla.

2) TB's comment 'loathsome' was a shot at my previous post, sooo...., I used HIS terminology 'self-righteous prats' in reverse!

Simple really.

Or are you saying that that terminology is abusive ONLY if it comes from a woman?
Posted by Ginx, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 1:18:39 PM
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Ginx,
I'm not a "Horase".

It seems that you can't make a single post without abusing someone or calling them various names. No wonder you identify so much with feminism.
Posted by HRS, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 5:11:23 PM
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HRS, you keep repeating the same thing over and over, so I'll do the same -

HRS, can you accept that if a woman opposed the stoning of women in Saudi Arabia, for not wearing a veil, and this woman identified that as they're standing up for women's rights, they are a feminist - could you accept that this woman would be a feminist with a good cause?

You don't have to admit that feminism on the whole is a good thing. You just have to accept that some feminists have a worthwhile cause.

If you want me to believe you're not a misogynist, all you have to do is admit this. I'll retract that claim.

But given that you can't make this patently clear admission, it is apparent you're a misogynist.

So when I exhort people to ignore you, it's because I know you're not in here to offer genuine criticism of feminism, it is because you hate anyone who sticks up for women's rights.

I'm not abusing you, HRS. I'm saying that I've proven you're a misogynist, and I'm urging sensible people to shun you for that reason.

Plus, your childish prattlings that you're being 'abused' are clearly an attempt to evade this scrutiny.

Every time you repeat the same cliches on these boards, and attempt to foster sympathy, I'll repeat this same proof that you hate women.

Call that harassment or abuse if you will, but you have the power to stop it by accepting simple logic and proving you don't hate the idea of people sticking up for women.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 5:35:31 PM
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Ginx: "The 'strange bedfellows' comment was directed at TB (Col Rouge to you), and Vanilla."

You think it's strange? I've found myself in agreement with Col on several issues lately. Holy moly.

HRS, please define abuse. You use it differently from the way it usually used in English. The dictionary definition (in terms of abusive speech) is: "to speak insultingly, harshly, and unjustly to or about; revile; malign." Yet you think "horase" (which is fairly obviously a benign play on your name), "ilk" and "aubergine" are all abusive. You also define robust criticism as abuse. I'm sure you'll admit that you are more obsessed with abuse than any feminist could ever be. Compare, for example, the amount of times you bring up abuse on these forums, compared to the amount of times the feminists do.

So, can you share your definition with us? And also, can you tell us why you are more obsessed with abuse than a feminists, despite the fact that you would never call yourself an "ist" or an "ism"?

Also, has anyone else noticed how you never hear HRS say the word "kakidrosis" or "wanion" or "obdormition"?
Posted by Vanilla, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 5:43:12 PM
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Yvoone,
I would define abuse as “to speak insultingly, harshly, and unjustly to or about; revile; malign."

The continuous accusation by posters such as Turnrightthenleft that I am a misogynist is abuse. There is no evidence of misogyny.

You can look through my posts to find a single negative word about women.

Feminists operate very similar to how Marxists operated. If someone was critical of Marxism or communism, they were called an “enemy of the state” .

If someone is critical of a feminist, they are called a “misogynist” or “woman hater”. Same thing, different words.

Feminist have thrown every piece of dirt they can at the male gender. That is now abuse, and I’ve seen the affects that that abuse has on the male gender.

If there is a ridiculous ad in a magazine, that now represents men’s violence against women. Out of 10 million women in the country, how many women have been killed and put into the boot of a car?
Posted by HRS, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 8:53:03 PM
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HRS, sorry but I've had a bit of trouble finding the place where you retracted your claim about "the complete lack of complaint from self-proclaimed feminists about ads that portray men as being dumb, incompetent or suspect. " http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=7119#108786

I provided evidence that Vanilla had done just that in my post at
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=7119#108866

I eagerly look forward to seeing your retraction and apology to Vanilla.

Or perhaps you trying for the award of the poster most unwilling to admit they were wrong on OLO. I must admit you will have some fairly stiff competition if you are trying for it.

As for most of the nominations for most abusive feminist - if your nominations represent the best there is those feminists need to learn a thing or two about insulting and abuse. The standard of abuse is far to pathetic to deserve an award. Perhaps if you try a nit harder you might be able to get a reaction when one of the more extreme feminists pokes posts. They are rare so it's a difficult quarry but much more willing to really abuse.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 9:18:49 PM
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