Col.

Sectarian seems to me to be the category people with my views on the subject of filth are relegated: And yes, I am proud to be seen as the “Bigot” if that is what it takes to hold that view.
Les; congratulations on your brave and lonely stand; and that is what it takes at times

<"Funny how those who want to continue to perve on women and men in slavery are totally blinded to the obvious outcomes.">
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 1:13:30 PM

I agree with Runner and with Dan. It's very interesting to observe the level of denial whereby some people dismiss the power of images to influence one's worldview. Advertisers, of course, are well aware of this phenomenon.

I wonder what proportion of the men posting in defence of porn would also defend cigarette advertising and the like as harmless.

Porn is ever more insidious because it links images where women are dehumanized with basic sex drive.

The bulk of it is created by men, for men - it's male fantasy that has little or nothing to do with women as people or women as they experience their sexuality. It therefore reinforces ideas that females are just bodies that are usable, discardable, contemptible.

In that upside down view; women are both virginal and sexually voracious. Consensual sex and rape merge into one so that neither is relevant - all that matters is the 10 second shudder gained at the expense of female dignity.

I hope that this writer continues to advocate for respectful and decent treatment of women. Good work.

Oh, and bravo to the few men here who have a sense of decency and empathy towards others and who are unafraid to voice it even against the damning mob.

You give me hope - thank you.

Diver dan “Sectarian seems to me to be the category people with my views on the subject of filth are relegated: And yes, I am proud to be seen as the “Bigot” if that is what it takes to hold that view.”

I wrote in response to your declaration; as I quote you below:

“I am forever the sectarian on the issue of the sex industry, and proudly so.”

I did not “relegate” you to such a category. It is where you positioned yourself, with your own words.

I made the assumption that you would know the meaning of the word before you deployed it. Maybe I was wrong.

All I know is I could not ascribe such labels to myself and keep a straight face or expect to have anyone take seriously the views I espouse.

As I said before “If that is your take on yourself, then you have my condolences, it is nothing to be proud of.”

Definition of a bigot “One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.”

Being an effective bigot relies on being in an unassailable position, from where you can hurl down edicts and pronouncements onto the heads of your hapless subjects.

I would observe you are in no such position either physically, morally or intellectually.

You are in a position where the hand of reason can easily reach out and slap you, exposing your “sectarian bigotry” for what it is, the last bastion of a small, uneducated mind. A mind incapable of accommodating an alternate or dissenting view.

That said, I do so welcome your input, it is good to listen to the words of bigots, it is a salutary reminder of how easily things can go pear shaped if the voice of reason is ever silenced by the bigots use of censorship, imposed in the name of “sectarian conformity”.

Pynchme “Consensual sex and rape merge into one so that neither is relevant”

Somehow I find your post impossible to take seriously. I assume you wrote it for a laugh.

Pynchme,

'it's male fantasy that has little or nothing to do with women as people or women as they experience their sexuality. '

If that was the majority male fantasy (Which I don't believe it is) why is that invalid? Why should women decide what is an acceptable male fantasy? Why do you see this fantasy as a problem? Do you think men cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality? Do you think women don't enjoy any similar fantasies? If not you should read Nancy Friday's 'Women on Top'!

'It therefore reinforces ideas that females are just bodies that are usable, discardable, contemptible.
'
How many men do you know who have have this idea of women, that would be so 'reinforced'? Just what kind of porn are you discussing here? The most popular porn is amatuer porn where women are active participants.

Col,

Glad I could do my bit to spread a little joy around, but can you explain what you found so amusing.

Thanks