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Rape in Brisbane: just between friends : Comments

By Caroline Spencer, published 18/3/2008

P****graphy has made it very sexy to hurt and humiliate women. This has to change.

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What is with all these articles blaming pornography for the abuse of women? How do two incidences make a trend? How is the Internet "teaming" (I think she meant 'teeming') with bukkake sites? Got some statistics on that? And what happened to acknowledging that rape is violence-oriented, rather that sex?

Why are all these articles being published, with such little research done in them? I think that's a more relevant question than the article itself, really... :/
Posted by Chade, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 10:48:41 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me how such juvenile articles can actually be published. Given the standard of reasoning and presentation of evidence you have applied in the construction of this article, you would have been lucky to receive even a pass grade in ANY first-year social science class in ANY university in this country. Are you not just a tad embarrassed by the major gaps in your argument??

You simply cannot say ‘oh well, there’s group sex and gang-bangs involving mutually consenting adults in the pornography world, so therefore violent acts of non-consensual pack rape MUST be directly attributable to the former’. I mean, the inference simply does not stand up!

Quite seriously, how long do you think that humans (men) have been pack raping women for?? How many centuries?? How many millennia?!!

And of all the people who watch porn, even gang-bang porn, what percentage of this group do you think go on to commit hideously violent acts of pack rape?!!

In short, if you are going to continue to make wild causal attributions like that demonstrated in this highly amateurish article, you need to go back to uni (if you’ve been at all) and take a first-year course on constructing logical arguments and presenting evidence.
Posted by LSH, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 10:57:42 AM
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Oh my god! I've just read that you're a PhD candidate! I'm honestly stunned... This must have at least something to do with the massive inflation of grades in Australian universities over the last few years...

I wonder, do they teach argument construction and logic at the Asia Institute?? The answer is probably self-evident...
Posted by LSH, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:05:40 AM
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“The pornography industry makes more money than the mainstream entertainment industry”

“Consuming pornography is no longer the pastime of a few men on the margins, nor is it an activity that is marginal to the lives of men.”

So the author seems to be acknowledging using pornography is a mainstream activity and presumably accepted as “normal” by most men.

Maybe we should nationalise it, run it as a government department if it is that popular (that will certainly ensure it is no longer profitable).

“To date there have been few acts of resistance to the sex industry. This has to change.”

That sounds like the rally cry of the anti-fox-hunting or anti-furrier brigades and others prepared to inflict criminal damage upon those who are exercising their legal rights.

Not the sort of thing this fellow would ever approve of and would actively oppose (by all legal means).

Maybe all the blokes out there should have a pro-porn rally?

The point with banning pornography is simple, laws will never curtail the excesses of the lunatic few, only limit the rights of the many.

Since the author has acknowledged the mainstream popularity of porn and since the overwhelmingly vast majority of those users do not rape, it is an overreaction to ban porn for those many when such a ban will unlikely curtail the actions of the lunatic few who do rape.

It is the same argument for not banning cars because of any accident mortality rate.
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:08:05 AM
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Yeah, I agree with Col on this one.

I'm down with condemning the rape in this article. It's disgusting. We really should be discussing constructive means to address the problems.

Unfortunately, so many people are quick to blame it on things like porn or society.

The reality is, these men need to be dealt with harshly. That's the answer. Not some silly crusade against porn.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:26:53 AM
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Same. Next!
Posted by Vanilla, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:29:53 AM
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