“What sharia really means” is that Muslims do not believe they have to respect the laws of infidels. It means separate laws for different people. This, of course, is impossible under democracy – but sharia is not about freedom, equality and democracy. It is about Islam and its rule. Under sharia, infidels have less rights because the Quran says Muslims are “the best of people” and non-Muslims are to be subdued.

Obviously many Muslims believe that to be ‘real’ Muslims, they cannot be ‘real’ citizens of democracies. It means the Archbishop believes that the Western state is incapable of creating just laws for Muslims and so Western democracy is unfair to Muslims because they do not feel “comfortable” having to follow (some or any, he wasn’t clear on this) Western law. Archbishop Williams believes that having one law for everybody is “a bit of a danger.” Williams was not clear on what is to happen when a Muslim has an issue with a non-Muslim and stills feels “uncomfortable.” Is the infidel to submit to sharia? What the archbishop wants is the evisceration of British legal system.

Notice that the only religious group that cannot be expected to conform to a country’s law (or that does not believe itself to be equal to others) is Muslims. The archbishop is giving aid and comfort to the wife-beater, to those who force marriage, to those who do FGM and mistreat women. (I refer you to the study: "Crimes of the Community: Honor-Based Violence in the U.K.,") Substitute the word “community” for “Muslims”

As I have said before here, the fact is that Muslims are not honest about their religion and their dear Prophet.
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Everywhere Islam dominates, we see hate, violence, death and oppression – and the archbishop wants this for us. I have not yet found a Muslim that can explain why they say “Praise be unto him” after the name of a man who did the vile things Mohammad did, according to Islams own traditions.

Irf, some of us know Islam, your dear prophet and sharia.

Bad times are coming.

Kactuz

“The response to the Archbishop's speech has exposed the gross ignorance and prejudice of so many in the Western World towards anything deemed even remotely linked to Islam.”

Gross ignorance and prejudice? Or, is it simply people sick and tired of threats from alien beliefs to their way of life, in their own country? Islam is set on ruling the world. Only suicidal, left wing idiots like the Archbishop want that to happen.

Irfan advises us that a comedian – yes, a comedian! – has decided that people in the Middle East know more about western culture than we know about theirs. Citing an unknown comedian of Middle Eastern background is a bit desperate!

As for, “Once again, Muslims have been forced onto the front page, to explain themselves and justify their faith…” – well, in Muslim countries, non-Muslims rarely get the chance to do even this before Muslim lunatics call for their deaths.

We ignorant Westerners should remember that Irfan Usuf’s academic, provable qualifications are in Law, not religion. He often tells us infidels that we know nothing.

If we want to find out more, this amateur theologian is probably not the best source of knowledge. He should be treated as an individual with interesting views.

Dear Leigh,

Now that's the most intelligent argument that I've heard yet.

Of-course some people are afraid of anything that's "different" to the norm and often perceive things as a threat. That's a human trait.

However, education is the key to overcoming prejudice on both sides.
At least it's worth a try.

But then I suppose I'm looking at things from a 'Western' perspective.
And as I've often been accused - through "rose-coloured" glasses.
But, isn't listening and learning - better than ranting and raving?

A little bit of shove here, a little bit of push there, a few jokes about it now and then and gradually it comes into peoples' minds that the old Shariah isn't too bad, nothing scarey about it so we will try it out a bit just to see if we like the taste. After all, mustn't upset Muslims and be racist about it must we?
And before you have registered, the little bit becomes quite a lot then a lot more until it has set like concrete and becomes the norm.
Be warned,be alert.
Our laws are suited to our way of life. We need no other.

I am sure when we speak for sharia law we mean very different things and we misunderstand each other. We must be specific and detailed. I am sure I agree with the most of the sharia law, the most common, the everyday issues and I disagree with everything violates women rights, human rights and does not comply with our basic philosophy of justice. We do not stone to death for adultery, we do not cut the hand of a thief, etc. Sharia law is only in a small number of Muslim countries. Do not forget that Saudi Arabia's monarchy, continues the sharia law and its existent of cause our support and guns. We are hypocrites when we attack the Muslim people for the sharia law, when they are innocent, none asked them what they want, no democracy at all and we support the regimes who violate basic human rights and use the sharia law for their own benefits
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Irfan misses his lawyer's brief. If "we won't be seeing a sharia state on either side of the Tasman", it will not be because imams cannot agree on its liturgical issues or because they don't want it, but because the overwhelming majority of Australians will stand against it and will never allow their governments to legislate an act that would bring sharia even as the most minor part of an Australian secular legal system.

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