Bozo_Dagwood
1. Muslims are not all evil-most are just misguided.Maybe they can't help it if they have been indoctrinated since birth. Some Muslims ARE evil.
2. Islam is obviously not all evil- but it has some evil elements in it, which more properly belong to the 7th century. Maybe it needs updating, like Christianity-think about it.
3. Islam does not belong in the West, as it is incompatible with Western culture and thought, especially those aspects concerning tolerance and freedom. I'm talking about apostacy, women's rights, homosexual's human rights, and the right of other people NOT to believe in any religion.
4. I am an agnostic, but I do not wish to stop people from believing in their religion, if that is what makes them happy. It is only when religion impinges on other people's rights that I disagree with it.

This topic has headed off into its usual 'lets attack the Islamic faith and Muslim actions' directions.

If you want to go that way, fine, but I believe that we should get back to the initiating action: that is, that the Archbishop of Canterbury, speaking as head of an international (fractured) community of around 80 million protestant Christians, and as the head of the official church of Britain, has sought to privilege the legal system which stems from another faith's beliefs.

In many ways different faiths are already privileged in nominally secular society, for instance Sikhs are allowed to carry their knives places where no-one else is allowed to carry a weapon, anti-discrimination laws are in place to prevent disadvantage on the basis of belief.

If Rowan Williams as a private citizen who professes to be a Christian, had made these comments then no big deal. But as the head of the Anglican Church his views can be seen as his arguing, on behalf of the church.

This he was not doing. Perhaps he should be a servant to his flock, rather than a sheep swayed by politics. He should have looked to the basis of his faith, and sought the opinions of those he claims to speak on behalf of, before heading in this sort of direction.

He has rejected the views of the majority of the church, the church should now have the right to reject him.

Gibo,

You say that "They have guns stored away for the great day of the take-over of Australia and they have plans for civil war within our great land. ....the population percentage of violent and threatening world-conquering Islamics is estimated at a global 10%. Thats over 100million militants out of over 1 billion muslims."

One in ten Muslims in this country have a cache of weapons stashed somewhere and are waiting to launch a violent takeover at the order of some mysterious secret leader?

About 1% of our population is Muslim so that would mean about 20,000 armed insurgents are out there somewhere, and are so well organised that none of this has leaked out.

So where do you get this information from? I suggest you pass any information onto the authorities immediately.

I believe Gibo acquired his intelligence from a prophecy uttered by a pastor who arrived by flying saucer.

BOZO_DAGWOOD - you sound familiar. Are you related to anyone we know?

BBC TV today.

Just this morning.. in an interview with Muslims about the Archbrightspark's remarks on Sharia..one Muslim leader actually claimed that "There are many countries today where concurrent/parallel legal systems are the starting point and why shouldn't UK be the same?"

Well...as for me.. this is part of Sharia, and is one err shall we say... 'slight' reason why I would not want any Sharia.

http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec2.htm
PART FOUR
THE JUDGEMENTS CONCERNING THOSE WHO THINK THE PROPHET IMPERFECT OR CURSE HIM.

SECTION TWO
The proof of the necessity of killing anyone who
curses the Prophet or finds fault with him.

The Qur'an says that Allah curses the one who harms the Prophet in this world and He connected harm of Himself to harm of the Prophet. There is no dispute that anyone who curses Allah is killed and that his curse demands that he be categorised as an unbeliever. The judgement of the unbeliever is that he is killed.

Allah says, "Those who harm Allah and His Messenger, Allah has cursed them in this world and in the Next, and has prepared for them a humiliating punishment." (33:57). He said something similar about those who kill the believers. Part of the curse on them in this world is that they are killed. Allah says, "Cursed they will be. Wherever they are found, they are seized and all slain." (33: 61) He mentions the punishment of those who fight, "That is humiliation in this world for them." (5:45) "Killing" (qatl) can have the meaning of "curse".[6] Allah says, "May the conjecturers be killed!" (51:11) and "May Allah fight them! How they are perverted!" (9:30) i.e. may Allah curse them.

COMMENT.. well stripe me pink.... there it is.. Surah 9:30... hmmm I've seen that before.. AAH yes.. in just about every 2nd post I do.. .. I can't figure out why ...can you?

Notice ONE...thing..if you ignore all else. "The Connection between 'Allah's curses and earthly human punishment in Islam"

me...divisive ? Vilifying?

Thanx 4 the complement... now people are even inventing names deliberately to mock me :)

Boazy: " I can't figure out why ...can you?"

It's pretty obvious to most of us Boazy - it's called obsession, and is a form of psychopathology. I believe that the kind you have demonstrated in this thread is called Islamophobia.

Not to worry, it's probably treatable with a combination of medication and psychotherapy, which might also help with your other obsessive disorders, e.g. your homophobia.