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The Archbishop of Allah : Comments

By Jonathan J. Ariel, published 15/2/2008

It’s high time the Anglican Church replaced an appeaser of Mohammed with a promoter of Christ in Lambeth Palace.

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The truth is wobbles, not trying to negate what BOAZ might say in response to your question, is that the muslims take over whatever or wherever their seed sprouts up.
One sad little tragedy was a suburb called Punchbowl in Sydney. Bit by bit they moved into the suburb. Street by street they grew, pushing out the anglo-saxons. Older Australian folk got abused in the streets and spat on and harassed by the muslim thug children and eventualy were forced to move along. Then the muslims got into hen-pecking and whinging to the local politicians to have streets re-named with arab names and then they got schools closed and re-openned as muslim schools, then as the muslim kids grew up, taught by their fathers about the global conquest plan, they became muslim gangs and spread out from their base to contaminate surrounding suburbs...changing the flow of regional Australian youth society... running around with handguns and threatening lives.
Islam, as I have come to know it in Australia, is not a religion of great love but of conquest for the (fallen) spirit power that they call allah. They have guns stored away for the great day of the take-over of Australia and they have plans for civil war within our great land. Not all are like this... but the population percentage of violent and threatening world-conquering Islamics is estimated at a global 10%. Thats over 100million militants out of over 1 billion muslims.
Do you see why I push for a citizens home guard defence force?
We are threatened from within as well as from without.
Posted by Gibo, Saturday, 16 February 2008 8:34:48 AM
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Such a divisive tool this Religion.

On the Archbishop's website it is clear he was not advocating the wholesale adoption of Sharia. I am not sure which aspect he was referring to, it is not clear on the site and I have not done further reading.

Law and religion should not mix. The US makes similar concessions to the polygamist Christians some extremists even marrying girls as young as 13. This is child abuse under the law but is allowed to continue unabated in the US. Some of these concessions may not be in law but there is little recourse for the victims due to isolation.

Isolation is the biggest contributor to abuse, and Sharia Law or any other law that might conflict with a nation's law written to protect its inhabitants should be scrutinised rigorously.

Better really that Religion not play a part at all - too many different sects, sets of beliefs, distortions of history to suit the dogma and paternalistic posturing. While we can accept the various relgious beliefs - if someone wants to kneel in front of a wooden icon or dance around a pole I don't care and respect their right to choose how to live their life, but when these beliefs interfere with the legal system then it becomes a worry.
Posted by pelican, Saturday, 16 February 2008 9:06:28 AM
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Dear Hamlet,

As you know - the powerful groups in the community, in particular government and the large corporations, carry a great responsibility but their access to money, information and the ears of power...drains the decency from democracy. Often the result is a kind of conservatism which is an impediment to social change and breeds prejudice. It's not good for the country, for the land, or the people.

As far as Britain and sharia law is concerned - what the Archbishop was saying in his lecture was, as I understand it, the accommodation could be looked at - concerning certain contractual laws ( for - example - marriage)that are aleady being practiced - which would not clash with the laws of the land.

However, the spokesman for the Prime Minister negated the Archbishop's point of view - and that was that.
I don't understand what all the fuss is about - it seems like a storm in a teacup to me...
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 February 2008 10:20:04 AM
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The Archbishop of Canterbury's lecture,'Civil and Religious Law in England: a religious perspective' was an attempt to raise the issues surrounding a religious conscience in a secular state in an effort to 'prove' how it can play a positive role in everyday life. The real reason he used Sharia law as an example was to avoid mentioning other more pressing issues that relate to his own church - gay and female clergy, abortion , stem cell research and the like. One could either see it as I've stated above, or as a way of releasing the manifold demons of Islam for debate. It would seem he did both admirably.
Posted by Gitmo Guy, Saturday, 16 February 2008 11:03:48 AM
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Sharia law is a complex religious justice system. It starts from the most simple, common issues and goes to the most advanced. When we speak for Sharia law we mean the hard core, the law which violates women's rights, human rights, death by stone, cut thief's hand etc. When the Archbishop speak for Sharia law he probably means very simple common things, as registration, etc. I am sure the Archbishop try to make Muslim's life easier and less costly. I agree with him. It is better when we speak for sharia law to be specific, and avoid any misunderstanding. It is seemed there are people who try to find opportunities to attack Islam and if we are not very detailed, very specific we give them the chance to hit Islam and anyone else who promote the cooperation between people from different religious background.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Saturday, 16 February 2008 5:23:02 PM
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What people seem to be forgetting here is that Islam is not just a personal religion, it is also a political movement intent on imposing its law and regulations on the the whole world. If you doubt what I say, there are many examples on You-tube and other internet web sites of Muslims actually saying what they want and have decided is to be the fate of the west. What is more, it is all contained in the Koran, including their modus operandi.
We would be stupid to ignore what they are saying, thinking "it couldn't happen here" etc.
They have already announced their intentions and they started many years ago trying to implement their agenda. Well before 9/11.
The Archbishop's comments are really stupid. You can't have just a "little bit of Sharia"- as soon as the principle is accepted, the Muslims will push for more and more.
I really hope that the tolerant easy going people in the west will not let down their guard and allow the Islamic takeover, but due to the number of apologists for them in this forum and others, I fear that they will win.
Unfortunately things will have to get a lot worse and the proportion of Islamics in Europe will have to get bigger before the average westerner will start to wake up. By then it may be too late, if it is not already.
Appeasement will not help against such an implacable and determined enemy.
Posted by Froggie, Saturday, 16 February 2008 8:26:23 PM
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