Re David Boaz post, I agree with David, that Australia should and has always set the rules, for migration into this country, and that should remain the way migration is handled. In the Townsville Bulletin newspaper today, we read of a case where a self confessed peadophile, with convictions for same is USA, was allowed to migrate and study at our James Cook University, by the Dept of Immigration. He of course reoffended, and was caught by Queensland Police, and deported today. My question is if the Federal Government decides who comes, and under what circumstances they come, how is it they allowed a self confessed, convicted peadophile into the country, as if we don't have enough of our own, it seems we are now importing them? Are we importing any other unsavory people, are the security checks being performed properly? the Minister for Immigration, Amanda Vanstone declined to comment to the Townsvill Bulletin, seems to me to be a very shabby operation, under Ruddock, and now Vanstone, I'm afraid I don't have a lot of faith in the Government processes to protect it's citizens, when these situations occur.

Thankyou BOAZ. Its a fair point, but I do know the difference between between 'degrading remarks' and 'truthful warnings', I was talking about the former not the latter. One often finds, however, that some of us stretch the meaning of "truthful warning" to such an extent, that it targets people who are not involved in the extremist elements within certain religions. Yes Boaz, Christains still get discriminated against, by people from many different religious persuasions. I agree we need limits on immigration and protection against those who intend to harm other others walzting into our country. The issue is not to target people by some sort of narrow minded view of "association", ie because they maybe be Christain, Muslim, or whatever.

Arjay,

Look I don't disagree with you. I'm not some "l"iberal ideologue hell bent on refugee rights. Boaz makes some good points as well.

Here's a thought for you both though - in Britain they process their assylum seekers in detention within 3 months - why not Australia.

The other thing is that I wasn't making it up that Australia sets a quota of assylum seekers per year (that the Government thinks appropriate in the overall immigration program) and it hasn't ever reached it. Look there are camps of refugees all over Africa, the Balkans, and Afghanistan. Why not make the que work and find genuine assylum seekers over there.

Simplistic .......

Last point, Australia under Howard has higher immigration levels than under most years that Hawke and Keating were in power. So Howard talks tough, but in reality he is promoting the changing face of Australia as much if not more than any previous leader. He just won't tell you he is. Genius politician.

I'm not Left leaning - I'm a Blair man - get it Right.

Corin

To Mr Corin Mc Carthy.

The utter stupidity of rushing immigration checks for asylum shoppers in Britain is something which quite literally blew up in the faces of 60 Londoners only a couple of months ago. That some of the perpetrators and instigators of this outrage were “asylum seekers” who had gone to Britain in order to “escape” religious and political persecution simply underlined the fact that such people can not automatically be trusted.

During the Tampa showdown, a friend of mine was holidaying in Italy and he said that the Italians were utterly fascinated with the whole show. He said that pictures of Aussie SAS storming the Tampa seemed to be on Italian TV 24 hours a day. He told me that Italians were congratulating him for Australia’s stand against illegal immigrants claiming “asylum” and they said that it was about time the Italian government showed some backbone and did the same as the Aussies.

But I don’t want you to think that I am against asylum seekers per se. On the contrary, there are tens of thousands of white people now living in oppression in “Zimbabwe” (Rhodesia) who should be immediately allowed to come to Australia. These people are culturally akin to Australia, speak our language, have the same standards of behaviour and were our allies in two world wars. They can be relied upon to become good citizens and not create crime and welfare prone ethnic ghettoes.

But you are right in claiming that the Liberals do not give a damn about “the changing face of Australia. All they care about is money and power. Multiculturalism equals “divide and rule”, and that is just fine with them. Whatever social problems this creates is almost entirely limited to the confines of far away and exotic places like Bankstown or Campsie. The rich live cosseted in their wealthy suburbs behind an economic fence higher than the Berlin Wall.

Don’t tell your leftie mates that you are a Blair man or you will have a social fatwa put upon your head and be caste out among the despised suburban heathens.

Corin, this country is collapsing under the weight of the people already here. This Eco system is designed for no more than 10-15 million people,. it can't sustain our current population. To bring in more, is just plain stupid. You really need to look at what is happening in other places to see that we are on the same track as they are and in the grip of a religious war. All you and your ilk want to do is throw open the gates and say, come and take over.

Rainer, there are those that are against immigration that have the full support of indigenous people in this regard. I would back those against it, to survive against those that support it in the outback. Zimbabweans and Sth African whites, get to know a few and see how they turn out. There are some very racist and supremest ones, I have dealt with a few in Tasmania and they have a very un Australian way of looking at those that are not of their social set, which is Afrikaans. These people I find obnoxious.

The vast majority of those wishing to come here are muslim. If they were fundamentalist christians we should also be thinking seriously as to what their agenda is. There should be no more immigration until we have sorted out ourselves, though don't hold you breath.

redneck says:
During the Tampa showdown, a friend of mine was holidaying in Italy and he said that the Italians were utterly fascinated with the whole show. He said that pictures of Aussie SAS storming the Tampa seemed to be on Italian TV 24 hours a day. He told me that Italians were congratulating him for Australia's stand against illegal immigrants claiming "asylum" and they said that it was about time the Italian government showed some backbone and did the same as the Aussies.

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But...but...but...th...that can't be right. Margot Kingston, Philip Adams, the ABC 'experts' on all things and others told us that Australia was being shamed in the media right across Europe during the Tampa incident.