Catholic “brothers” are most definitely not left wing, Sneaky Peter. But they share a common goal with lefties. Catholicism is not a national body, it is an international one who’s ruling class does not give a damn about the welfare of Australians. It only cares about the survival of it’s organization and the welfare of Catholics.

The Catholic hierarchy promises heaven after death for it’s adherents, while Marxists promise heaven on Earth for it’s members. Both systems appeal to people who’s personalities need an authoritarian figure or party to spell out for them moral absolutes that are set in stone. That is why Communist parties flourish in Catholic countries and why Catholics and Marxist hate each other so much. They both appeal to the same sort of people to make up their members and both organizations are in open competition for them.

Your claim that humans have “grown out” of racism is laughably wrong. Another 400 cars got burned in France today and that sure looks like racism to me.

The Jews have suffered from racism for 2000 years so they of all people should be very sensitive to it. But even Israel is a racist state. Even within Israel, extreme divisions occur within the Jewish race. When Israel was created, Jews from the East and the West came together to form Israel. But the “European” Jews found that their culture was markedly different from the Eastern Jews, who’s culture and adherence to religion was very Muslim in character.

Both groups are now openly hostile to one another with Westernized Jews calling fundamentalist Eastern Jews “Goyem”, while the Eastern Jews sneer back at the Westerners with the racist tag of “Frankum.”

You have got a lot to learn, Sneaky Peter.

"Australian" refers to Aboriginal, well i was born here so i'm an Australian...

RedNeck... above i meant that what i personally class as an australian

Also, why people think rasism is so bad, to me it is a natural tool given to us by evolution, for survival of our own... rasisim is totaly normal and is totally natural... and as i said in my last post... It's not a question of your race... you will always be rasist and u will alaways be subjected to rasism.. now if i get some idiot on here that claims there not rasist... please disregard the posts, as they are a fool to even think it is podssible to be non rasist..

we maybe able to control the extent of our own personal rasism... but it is in there wheahter u like it or not...

it's about time people remembered that were just animals...

Yes, Noobie, but we do not have to behave like racists.
Seems we have a collusion of the definition of 'racist'. Racism, by definition, is to 'show racist behaviour'. It is 'not racism' to feel that someone is different due to their place of origin. It 'is' racism to act on that feeling in a derogatory way (through intellectual or physical means, whatever).
To promote the idea that racism is an unremoveable, inevitable ingredient in humanity is rubbish. We are far more in control, as a race, of our negative 'instincts' than we were even 100 yrs ago.
Racism is inarguably 'learned'.

Just a few technical points..... firstly... it wasn't Ranier..

It was MAHATMA lurking behind that fence :) Welcome back...

BUT....

I continue to be totally amazed that someone with the technical training and experience of people groups and races and tribes as you purport to have, can then throw all that knowledge of human behavior out the window and come in here throwing sloguns, accusations of 'racism' etc and mini mantra's at the likes of Redneck, myself and Philo.

Of all people here Mahatma, you would be in a good position to actually affirm most of what you know is correct in Rednecks posts.

I have trouble with his 'genetic' aspect, but even in this, there is an underlying wisdom that while he may not express it in techo terms is nevertheless there.

Example his statement about 'skin color/race/predisposition to crime' etc....

Lets look at this in terms of cultural values and breeding.

1/ If a culture places a HIGH value on the art of "treachery", like among Sawi people of Irian Jaya, or 'independance' among the Dayak, or 'docility and humility' of the Lun Bawang of Sarawak and some of them migrate to Australia, there is a better than even chance they will reflect their own culture. Given that 'breeding follows values' i.e. a person 'skilled' at that thing, is going to be breeding more, then the general 'tone' of the population will increasingly manifest a given set of characteristics.

2/ This is much more 'cultural' than 'genetic' so I think Redneck is not correct in suggesting this, but the end result is still the same.

Only when a culture is confronted with values which contradict the prevailing ones, and when opinion leaders of that group adopt them, will the 'tone' of the population begin to change.

If you disagree with someones position, why not try the Biblical approach :) 'correcting your opponents with gentleness'

I have to confess to the need of relfecting on that verse myself

Swilkie...
sorry mate you are wrong... only a few of us will ever have the ability to contain all of these types of feelings all the time... most are not... and personally i find it crazy to think a human can override thousands/millions of years of evolution in the few short years there alive what ever the enviroment they are luycky or unlucky to be born into. But i do understand what you are saying and i also think that this is true, but only under certain cercumstances or exreme prosparity and the good life, but when things go bad... people will do what ever it takes to survive..

Philo,
'An Australian is primarly one who believes in our Constitution, institutions of Government and laws. Anyone who wishes to undermine this is seditious and un-Australian.'

'When we witness the corruption, undermining and abuse of our institutions then we believe such persons to be unaustralian.'

Does that mean we can put lil' johnny on a slow boat back to dear old England? (perhaps the owner of the MV Tampa would not mind).

1. He has intentionally, or with contumelious disregard for the welfare of Australians, sought to undermine the Constitution, and is therefore in the position where he could and should be charged with sedition (WorkChoices). Our Constitution 'predicates the continued existence of the States as independent self-governing entities' (Melbourne corp. v Cth, per Dixon J) , lil john does not agree, and has sought to avoid this continued existence of both the States & the Federal compact.

2. He has intentionally, or with contumelious disregard for the welfare of the welfare of individual Australians, used his senate majority to foist upon the Australian population laws, which having not been presented to the Australian population at the last election, he has no mandate to introduce.

3. He has intentionally, or with contumelious disregard for the welfare of individual Australians, misused his senate majority to introduce draconian, discriminatory legislation.

Oh!, hang on, I do not need to make a case, why don't we just work on Barnaby, he is from Queensland, and he will have to pass the money bills!

You know, wouldn't that be justice!