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To save the world we may have to waste it : Comments

By Michael Lardelli, published 15/2/2008

When declining fossil fuels threaten economic growth we'll see all talk of reducing carbon emissions thrown out the window.

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Oh dear!

Mike gave us a good look up our own fundament -

- and some of us don't like the view -
Posted by Chris Shaw, Carisbrook 3464, Friday, 15 February 2008 1:46:00 PM
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Crikey Perseus. I though you would have applauded this article, given that you seem to knock anything green or environmental, and support the likes of Jennifer Marohasy!
Posted by Ludwig, Friday, 15 February 2008 3:14:35 PM
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Man caused global warming is a joke, a hoax, backed by no solid science. It simply isn't true, carbon dioxide isn't a pollutant, it is plant food, the second most precious gas, after oxygen, for human survival.
In the 70's they where warning about the coming next ice age, it's still coming, it's overdue It could start in 10 years or 10 centuries, but that should be our real concern, the coming Ice Age. It has always happened before and it will happen again, the question is do we take Mexico now or wait. We are the fastest growing 3rd world nation in the world, not an enviable situation and a situation that doesn't have to be.
But I digress, human caused global warming is about as scientific as the moon is made of cheese. Ethanol is another polical fiasco, not a sound scientific decision, it takes about as much, or more energy, to produce a gallon of Ethanol than the energy you get from it. In a few years the masses will realize this, after untold $$$$$ where spent to subsidize this folly and no benefit was gained. It is driving up food prices, from grain and everything that eats grain or is in the grain food cycly. What a joke, convert our food supply to a government subsidized fuel supply, which costs more to produce than the fuel benefit we derive from it. There is a $.50 to $.55 tariff on imported Ethanol, to make our home grown corn Ethanol competative with world market prices, and our corn growers are subsidized about the same amount. That is why there is a grain shortage, plant more corn and get subsidized, forget about the wheat and soybeans, they can be imported from Brazil and other countries, who needs Rain Forests anyway.

DeepDarkOpps
Posted by DeeprkOpps, Friday, 15 February 2008 6:48:15 PM
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*We are short-sighted and think mainly of ourselves. We fight, we breed and we die - just like any other mindless species on this planet. That is how nature works.*

Basically yup, ignore nature at your peril. In a hundred years we
have gone from 1.5 billion to 7 billion, on the back of cheap oil.
When that runs out, nature will sort it out, as it was clearly
unsustainable.

We shipped boatloads of food to the third world, when they dangled
starving babies in front of our tv cameras and pushed our emotional
buttons. We shipped boatloads of vaccines to them, to help them
avoid diseases. But we have found it impossible to provide
hundreds of millions of third world women with basic family planning,
as our religious leaders, aka the Vatican, strongly objected.

More boatloads of food and more vaccines, landed up meaning even
more millions of starving babies.

Clearly we as a species are not yet smart enough to live sustainably,
so nature will sort it out.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 15 February 2008 11:09:55 PM
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I vote for placing this piece into a time capsule for future discovery by aliens from another planet. They'll wander our desolate planet looking for signs of life. And just when they reach the conclusion there was never any intelligent life on Earth, they'll find this and be very confused.

Dave Gardner
Producer/Director
Hooked on Growth: Our Misguided Quest for Prosperity
www.growthbusters.com
Posted by Growthbuster, Saturday, 16 February 2008 12:56:24 AM
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Well, it's a unique take on peak oil and our mid- to long-term survival. Cynical perhaps but there's plenty of evidence for most of what is claimed. Better sooner than later, I agree. It will also allow me to say "I told you so" within my own lifetime.
Posted by bennie, Sunday, 17 February 2008 9:44:55 AM
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