don't you think it's kind of strange, that politics in oz is talk about celebrities? not political celebrities, pop stars!

this is politics for children, politics for people who can't play any serious role for lack of democracy.

Mr Garret had, and still has, an option available to him. Resign. But he won't because the banana is now fully bent and yellow.
A man with such maleable convictions is well suited to public office and serves as a living cartoon comment on politics at all levels where, once the votes are counted the voters become irrelevant and self interest and a#se covering becomes of paramount concern.
Last Friday the self proclaimed eco warrior approved the clearing of the site for Gunns pulp mill, ao now the D8's can turn their attention away from buldozing the Tasmanian parliament to buldozing trees. (What's the c[arb]on credit scheme on that, I wonder?)
Is this a rant? Well, it's my rant and I'm entitled to it.
Leigh, I believe you were spot on again.

Hey Timmy, has it ever occured to your vestigial brain that those who act out the moral puritans and wag their fingers at others, just might be Elmer Gantry figures who are enriching themselves by acting out a role?

I mean, you have dozens of pop stars who want to Save the Planet, Save the Whale, Save the Farmers, and Save the Environment. But this is coming from people who live in mansions with bodyguards, snort enough cocaine to enrich hundreds of murderous narcotrafficantes, have share portfolios and investment advisers, and who own private jets belching carbon.

And you take these guys seriously?

But don't wory about Peter Garret. When Labor loses the next election and he loses his seat, Peter can always go back to his mansion in Moss Vale and prostrate himself before the local enviornmentalists. Then he can do a Jimmy Swaggart.

I can just see him throwing himself on his knees and screaming "Ah have sinned, Lord."

All will be forgiven, and it will be business as usual. Like P.T. Barnum said. "There is one born every minute."

So all these world and environmental and poverty problems are now Peter Garrett’s fault with a little help from Sting and Bono. Bastards. Why haven’t they saved the world yet. We loved them enough. They should have done it by now. Jerks.

Hold on a second. What about Russell Crowe, Hugh Jackman, Tim Finn, Dave Grohl, Michael Jordan, Ronaldhino, Thierry Henry and LeBron James?
When are Bert Newton, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Alan Jones and John Laws going to start sorting out world poverty?
What the hell have Bruce Springsteen, Paul Simon, Elton John and Eric Clapton done for the environment lately?
And what about Jimmy Page and Robert Plant? Oh sorry. Wait a minute. They wrote “Nobody’s Fault but Mine,” so we can’t blame them

Yes, like Palimpsett, I think you have to lose some battles to win "THE WAR" I was like you when younger but old age has taught some lessons.If you are in an Australian political Party, despite some trumpeting that their members can cross, with impunity, the floor, if they believe an issue on the platform of their party is wrong. They will be brave but no longer there next election!Only BOB KATTER AND HIS ILK survive after making a name and fighting for their community "after" starting in a party Disunity is the worst disease for any party to catch.Sure, "Democracy" ain't perfect, tell me out of the rest which one you'd prefer!

Mr Garret is not a child. He knew very well what he was doing. He exchange his personal history with the Chair. He took the Chair. What else does he want? Credibility? It does not depend on the ALP government but on Australian people. Forget it!!