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Trapped in a genocidal history : Comments

By John Passant, published 24/1/2008

The myth of Australia Day reflects White Australia's amnesia about White settlement.

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Col Col Col,

Don't get me wrong, I really like you!

Your venomous diatribes,
Your spurious scientific claims about everything and everyone,
Your Readers Digest histiography,
All rolled out in a pretentious anglophilic drubblings.

You’re a scream!

I hope your heart condition gets better, no really, I hope it does.

PS. So how do you feel about being a descendent of Negro's? What would Margret think about this?
Posted by Rainier, Saturday, 2 February 2008 6:35:35 PM
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Boudjika asks: "after how much time living on a particular piece of dirt ,does some one become indiginous of that spot ?,will the ancestors of the colonising people of this country have the right to say they are indiginous also in lets say 40,000 years time? or when ?"

Actually in 40,000 years time nation states (a recent and historically fleeting development) will no longer exist and the idea of any loyalty to a particular country will be viewed as the historical anachronism it is already.

Nevertheless in the here and now the struggle for the recognition of human rights for the original inhabitants of this land is morally and politically appropriate - morally because it recognises the fact our present economic system is built on the bones of aboriginal people and politically because the struggle for recognition is at its heart anti-establishment, challenging all the shibboleths of the Coalition and Labor.
Posted by Passy, Saturday, 2 February 2008 7:30:12 PM
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Rainier” I hope your heart condition gets better, no really, I hope it does.”

It will not but that does not bother me, I only made reference to it to illustrate its genetic origin and the fact that it is not a governmental responsibility.

“PS. So how do you feel about being a descendent of Negro's? What would Margret think about this?”

Oh you are talking about the rift valley origins.

I also have 2 Jewish great-great grandmothers, not that I think of myself as Jewish but at least the Jews have a real holocaust to complain about and not the make-believe one which the Australian indigenes have dreamed up.

Passy “loyalty to a particular country will be viewed as the historical anachronism it is already.”

And

“Nevertheless in the here and now the struggle for the recognition of human rights for the original inhabitants of this land is morally and politically appropriate”

I see what you mean, if you are claiming our current political system of allegiances is a “historical anachronism” then defending some mythical / historical special right of indigenes is a greater one.

What is certain is any claim, real or imagined of indigenes is “anachronistic” and when the current system becomes an historical anachronism, you will be able to say it deserves the same credence.

Until then what happens will be up to the people who live then. As we are at the moment, loyalty to a particular country does matter.

I am not sure if you are getting ahead of yourself or running behind yourself, either way it seems an ill-reasoned and ambiguous argument.

Oh and remember, in the endgame, to which you allude, the world of international socialism was crushed through its own corruption and incompetence, aided by the moral and economic superiority of the capitalist democratic system. I see no change to that, regardless of any loyalty to nationhood.
Posted by Col Rouge, Sunday, 3 February 2008 12:50:49 PM
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so i was born in this country ,that makes me indigenous to this land does'nt it ?
Posted by boudjika, Sunday, 3 February 2008 7:38:52 PM
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Yeah Sure Thing boudjika! You're Indigenous! Hooray!

If you have a map of Australia get it out, find an Aboriginal community you would like to live in and Hey Presto you're Indigenous!

You'll have lots in common with the locals, lots of shared history, health problems etcetera.

You might have to learn a new language(s), develop some new living skills but overall I'd say you'd handle it well.

You come across as intelligent, caring and politically aware about being black and poor in remote Australia. (this helps)

Let me know which community you choose, when you'll be travelling, and I'll send word about your arrival.

Now that the permit system is abolished you should have no problems entering any community in the Northern Territory.

PS. I hope you're not a paedophile are you?
Posted by Rainier, Sunday, 3 February 2008 8:45:46 PM
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For the record, I blame Col Rouge for attracting the intellectually challenged to OLO.
Posted by Rainier, Sunday, 3 February 2008 8:49:22 PM
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