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Thoughts on Australia : Comments

By Ian Nance, published 25/1/2008

We should try to keep faith with the future and give the intolerant, xenophobic doomsayers the good old Aussie finger.

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TRTL,

All this lecturing of yours must keep you in a state of constant tension. You just can’t help yourself, can you?

I have always been the main target of your self-righteous pontificating; and, has it made one iota of difference? No!

You appear to be a zealot who thinks he has to try to change everything and everyone. You don’t have much respect for others do you? You are firm in your beliefs, but people with different beliefs don’t have any real conviction, eh? A few words from the sage, TRTL, and they will be panting to be just like him.

You are wasting your time on me. Give yourself a rest.

By the way, be a good chap and stop telling me what I hate. I don’t hate at all
Posted by Leigh, Sunday, 27 January 2008 10:14:22 AM
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Leigh: " have always been the main target of your self-righteous pontificating; and, has it made one iota of difference? No"

Actually Leigh... I, well, I don't know how to break this to you, but I've been self righteously pontificating on other posters and articles, some even more than you. Sorry. I hope this doesn't mean we can't pontificate together anymore.

As for the rest of your post... wait a minute, you mean to tell me people actually post their opinions on this website!?
You mean, people have opinions that disagree, and sometimes they have the hide to elucidate why?
You mean, people not only put their own arguments forward, but critically appraise those of others?

By gum! How strange! (Just to be absolutely clear, this concept is known as 'sarcasm' which is when you say the opposite of what you mean or feign ignorance in a blatantly obvious manner).

As far as telling you what you hate... actually, no, I sometimes reiterate what you've said, which inevitably, is a comment on how much you hate something or someone, or even wish genocide upon certain age groups.
Constructing false arguments and attibuting them to people is your specialty. I can link to examples if you really want me to, but I suspect you don't.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Sunday, 27 January 2008 2:57:28 PM
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Leigh is a lost soul with issues, he/she enjoys deriding anybody or anything that is happier than he/she.

Well lets face it, where all a lot happier than Leigh, so come on Leigh join the real people mate! Live life and be happy, your dead a long time!
Posted by Kipp, Monday, 28 January 2008 6:13:22 PM
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This white Celtic-Romano-Anglo-Norman immigrant is astounded at the vicious vituperation going on, and suggests the preceding intolerant canting writers really belong in the deep south of the USA. As a migrant, I sincerely hope that none of you are typical Australians.
Posted by HenryVIII, Monday, 28 January 2008 8:44:46 PM
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Gibo,
I enjoyed your post on 26 Jan at 17:39 in which you described us inter alia as" a common people with little other in mind than sport, sickies, beer and bagging the opposition".
Gibo, along with your general comments about our convict culture, I feel that you have the makings of a worthwhile essay on the wide question of our "Australian" nature, and urge you to think about writing one.
Best wishes
Posted by Ponder, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 11:51:52 AM
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Leigh “Col Rouge,

You are living proof that many migrants are more Australian than some of the ‘ockers’ who make fools of themselves here and in society generally. I would swap Ranier and other idiots for people like you any day”

Thank you Leigh, you are very gracious.

I have said before and will recall again, when I arrived at the migration check at Sydney Airport, the migration officer read my visa and said “Ah some of the chosen people”

Some particularly welcome words and something which touched me so profoundly that I have recalled it often over the past 25 years since they were said.

Unlike some here who think they are entitled, by something akin to the divine right of kings (except we just replace the word “king” with “aborigine”) I do not expect anyone else to roll over and support me. All I have ever asked for is the right to make my own way in life and earn my own living deploying the skills I have acquired through my personal effort.

Some posters here obviously do not share that value.

They seem to lack what is often called “work ethic” and expect society to tend to their every need simply because, someone in their distant family past, happened to be here before Captain Cook.

As you pointed out, the Spanish forces under Pizzaro and the “natives” was a different experience to that administered by Captain Cook and his colleagues.

One is tempted to consider the nature of the Spanish character versus the British character or maybe Protestant values versus what passes for “values” in the Catholic church.

I note no one has challenged my comments regarding the mindset which differentiates between people based on race is the same as the values which supported the salve trade of old.

However, I do not assume that the bigots who claim some “special rights based on racial distinction” above those of all other Australians to actually agree with me.

They will pretend I never said it and merely whine out their mantra of racial entitlement on another thread
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 1:46:24 PM
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