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Thoughts on Australia : Comments

By Ian Nance, published 25/1/2008

We should try to keep faith with the future and give the intolerant, xenophobic doomsayers the good old Aussie finger.

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"entrenched,bigoted,zenophobic cluster of citizens professing an Anglo-Celtic culture"
You stupid 'multiculture'lapdog apologists are so thick you cannot see your own gross racism.
The rest of us can.
Posted by mickijo, Saturday, 26 January 2008 2:28:31 PM
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Actually Mickijo, you need a new word. Racism = discrimination against a race.

Criticism of a stupid hostile view, well, that's just common sense.

I'm amused by your post though, because I can only see a few logical conclusions you're making there (P.S. Xenophobe is spelt with an X):

1) "entrenched,bigoted,xenophobic cluster of citizens professing an Anglo-Celtic culture" don't exist.

Well, given that there are millions of Australians, I'd say there's no denying that people who behave in this manner exist here. We've seen examples of it on these boards.

2) You're among the "entrenched,bigoted,zenophobic cluster of citizens professing an Anglo-Celtic culture" and you're made at being called out?

Well... you don't have to claim this mantle. You can just have insular views, but that doesn't mean you have to call yourself bigoted.

Maybe you're being too harsh on yourself... unless you are one? I dunno what you're getting at here. Can't we criticise genuine bigoted xenophobes?

Basically... I see someone condemning the people that are bigoted and hate-filled. You're hitting out at that, but unless you're putting your hand up to claim to be one, I don't see why.

And multiculturalists can't be racists. They just have views you don't like. Deal with it. It's a different issue.

The moment you start pretending that discrimination against people with certain views is as bad as discriminating against people of certain races, you're on a losing wicket.

It can't work. People could never disagree about anything.

This is the tactic racists love to use. "Ooh No! They're racists too! They don't like my views! How dare they!"

Bulldust. What crap.
I can disagree with that, but it doesn't make me a racist, it just means I'm disagreeing with someone's view. Just because they don't like being called racist they try to claim a victim mantle, but I won't have a bar of it.

And that ain't racist.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Saturday, 26 January 2008 2:57:02 PM
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Its always been a different country.
The convict heritage has always been, so it seemed to me, to be the dominate cause of bad attitudes. Many of the people are indeed criminal. Maybe not in their daily physical activities but in their bigotry and small attitudes...in their whinge. This is a bigoted country from top to bottom. We are a common ordinary people with little other in mind than sport, sickies, beer and bagging the oppositon. We uplift country and western singers and motorcycle racers as Australians of the year because thats where the people are in their minds. Brave men like Chen Yonglin come to our land and out of their conscience warn the people about a great spy threat within Australia... and all the federal government does is shunt him off with a new id to some distant dry place, mostly likely, trying to save face because of their own apathy and laziness and incompetance towards national security. That is... one federal government after another. Liberal and labor. No wonder the Amercians tell us no real secrets. The convicts simply cannot be trusted. We are a common people with bad attitudes. A common folk who even now wish to rid themseleves of a wonderful Queen and a connection to something noble with our English heritage... that is far more substantial than the convicts can dream.
Posted by Gibo, Saturday, 26 January 2008 5:39:10 PM
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AMAZING STUFF...

It looks like the old "If I can't find the real deal to rail against..I'll just INVENT it".. i.e.. I'll craftily build a straw man and apply the profile of that which I love to hate.. then I'll viciously rip into him and destroy him with my articulate argument!

ERRR...

PROFILE

White, AngloCelt, Hates non them, is Xenophobic, Racist, hates Aboriginals.

Hmmmmm Well.. I guess there are a few like that, I don't know how many, but I do know one thing, they only exist in the absense of a strong 'CITIZENSHIP' program which should be promoting inclusion, and acceptance of all people EXCEPT those who hold values and objectives (however benign they may be at the present time) which are aimed at undermining that social/cultural framework which welcomed them.

Just today I was watching "Border Security" where this Chinese drongo spat out sooo many outright bald face lies so he can continue selling his pirate DVDs, acting like the Immigration officer was a complete dill..and then..THEN....he had the gaul to rant about "AAAH this country is multi national blah blah" while they were working out the situation with his FRAUDulently obtained fake passport !

VALUES..is what its all about. Any bloke who is tolerant of strategic racist intolerance which has long term objectives far into the future, needs to look at the rise of the National Socialists.

Australia has values.. inherited from our history, culture and religion.
a) Abandoning those will destroy us.
b) Accepting those who want to help us abandon them, is suicide.

.. and plain stupid.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 26 January 2008 8:00:43 PM
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runner, if you are genuinely concerned (as I am) about reducing the number of abortions in Australia, then I can only assume you hope to see Australia become more like the highly secular and liberal nations Belgium or The Netherlands, where abortions are legally and inexpensively available to all women, but who boast by far the lowest abortion rates in the world.
Posted by wizofaus, Sunday, 27 January 2008 6:08:31 AM
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Boazy: "PROFILE

White, AngloCelt, Hates non them, is Xenophobic, Racist, hates Aboriginals."

That profile would fit many of the more bigoted and prolific participants here at OLO, including good old Boazy if we leave out the bit about hating Aboriginals, to whom his expressed attitude is mostly indifference interspersed with the odd lukewarm platitude.

It's not a 'straw man' when one can readily identify numerous actual examples.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 27 January 2008 9:20:40 AM
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