Turnrightthenleft,
I am convinced that you do have a crush on me. Everywhere I go you follow me, like a little feminist puppy.

Maybe you should read the articles on this website as well.
http://www.iwf.org/

The articles on that website are written by many women, but the articles do not come under the title of “The Trouble with Men” (like the feminist author that you recommended.)

And the website does not have slogans such as “I Crossdress my Barbies”, or “I need someone really bad… are you really bad? (like the feminist website that you recommend that I read)

Nor does it have articles under the categories of “Boys are made of Slime and Snails” or “People are Sh_it” or “F__K the world” (like the categories on the feminist blogsite run by the profane and gossipy Audrey Apple).

If Audrey Apple or the feminists that you recommend are representative of feminism in this country, then I give feminism in this country a vote of 0 out of 10 also.

Seeker: "It appears there is a real possibility that you are selling your mother short by attributing her success to feminism rather than her own abilities. Could it be that your mother's success is due to her dedication and hard work, and not feminism at all?"

My mothers success is about her dedication, hard work, natural abilities and feminism. And about a gazillion other things. But she herself credits feminism as playing a pivotal role in her life. It was her path to fulfilling her potential and best helping others. (And meeting my dad, too!)

"Was the implied unhappiness of your grandmothers directly related to their non-dedication to feminism, and *everything* to do with men, or to other, totally unrelated social and economic factors? I dare not ask about your grandfathers, for they portray as abusers and rapists."

What a nasty little paragraph. Please don't insult my family then attribute it to me. Frankly, I have no idea what you're on about here. I never suggested that my grandmothers' inability to lead a full life (not unhappiness) was *anything* to do with men. They weren't "non-dedicated" to feminism - they just didn't have it back then. Both my grandfathers were excellent men.

"Situational feminism can be a challenge to most men – even the strong ones you so admire, but especially to those not doctors or CEO's, or unlikely prime ministers."
I agree entirely.

R0bert. I'm sorry your stats have been ignored. I know it's not the same topic, but I just started a thread on the "general" site about a new Institute of Criminology report on the sexual abuse of boys. It does discuss reasons why males are less likely to report abuse though - it might interest you.

(Feminists) seek to find strength in union rather than opposition---oh please, if that were the case they would be 'humanist' not 'feminist'.
Most of this entire thread has been how feminists don't give a stuff on how their actions impact negatively on men and boys & other non feminist women, only on themselves. Go and look after yourselves males are told and when they do feminist abuse follows.

James H & HRS etc have given dozens of examples & links to prove the point.

No DVD, most of this thread has been men whining about womens reluctance to be doormats. So many men get to hate women because they've never learnt to relate outside of me-boss-you-listen.. its worse than haliotosis and seems only rarely cured past a certain age, only devious or desperate women will suffer it and not enough to match the legions of meatheaded males. Sadly thats the way advertisers, employers and armies like it.

DVD,

Daphne Patai wrote that after her experiences with the gender studies academics she nolonger thinks that the world would be a better place if it was ruled by women. She and Hoff Summers both demonstrate that different feminists do not work together in union.

"Bad mother, rather than a feminist."

Interesting some adult of children of the earlier feminists have said that their mothers, were bad mothers.

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1613#more-1613
Venus; the dark side.

"The picture is emerging of a woman who must get what she desires at all costs and must always be right. Sometimes she will deliberately claim to misunderstand something to justify doing what she wants, even though she knows it is against your wishes. She may cause problems just to attract attention to herself, because she likes to feel important.

"Creating self-doubt in her victims’ minds is an integral part of her approach. She plays on their reasonableness to give her the benefit of any doubts they may have. She knows that reasonable people don’t like to think badly of others and will often beat themselves up for thinking uncharitable thoughts. She always sounds so convincing. Her approach is intended to make you question whether you were correct in your thoughts about her. It slows you down. It’s meant to."

Liam. Hurrah! Reminds me of the famous Rebecca West quote: "I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat."

James. Cheers. I know where I'm not wanted. I'll leave the thread, but with this thought - one that I'm sure you guys will *hilariously* take the p!ss out of when I'm gone. I never the thought the world would be a better place if women ran it. I thought the world would be a better place if were could run it together.

Now go for it! Let it rip boys! I want to hear how manipulative I am!