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Young people duped by a culture of degrading sexual attitudes : Comments

By Maree Crabbe, published 15/11/2007

Young people are being ripped off by a culture that promotes a hollow understanding of intimacy and tolerates degrading attitudes towards women.

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"but try finding a sex offender in prison who is not or was not into pornography. "

So Runner, where did all those priests go wrong? Are they all reading
porn, in between reading their bibles?
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 19 November 2007 10:12:52 PM
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TurnLeftThenRight,

I suggest you read my post again, mate. Then try to guess where my tongue was placed as I was writing it.

Unless my reference to Wikipedia (the font of incontravertable evidence) the pub-song "On Ilkey Moor Bar T'at", and the habits of the fierce, moor dwelling ilk (close cousin of the unicorn, I believe) do not first alert you, that is.
Posted by Romany, Monday, 19 November 2007 11:27:43 PM
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HRS

"In this country, I have also never once seen a woman with a black eye or split lip, or even any sign of being physically assaulted."

Well, HRS consider yourself fortunate and one of the very rare ones who has never seen this. Regrettably, I've seen this and way too often. Also don't forget, assault is not only physical but also verbal, and this can be the most insidious abuse as there are no bruises to show the assault has been done. This type of assault destroys a woman's soul, spirit and confidence and it takes years to rebuild again. I have been subject to this type of assault and I still struggle some 7 years later.

"The danger is that with all the “education“ of girls and women that the male is nearly always the perpetrator of abuse or domestic violence, young girls or women will begin to think that they can do whatever they like." No person male or female can do what they like at all. The fact is HRS most of the time the male is the perpetrator of the assault, particularly serious assault.

"... because everyone knows that abuse is only carried out by a male." I don't think anyone has said that assault is exclusively a male crime, but the majority of assault upon women is done by men, and it is this acceptance of denigration of women via pornography, images in media etc that women have to fight against so that men and young males can develop a healthy and appropriate mindset about women and young ladies. i.e. a woman is not a piece of meat upon which a male can satisfy his sexual desires, but a woman is someone who is worthy of love, respect, appreciation etc etc etc.
Posted by zahira, Monday, 19 November 2007 11:29:49 PM
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TRTL - 'tis an ilk wind that blows nobody any good.

HRSkins - sometimes vulgar terms can be quite apposite. If you're somewhat coyly referring to my description of Kevin Andrews, let me assure you that, now that I think of it, I've thought similar things about you based on your comments here.

By the way, I'm a bloke - but unlike you, I'm quite happy about it :)
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 7:50:12 AM
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You make some good comments Shadow Minister. I have to agree that my post may have seemed obsessed with pornography, and its influence on young people. I don’t think some people really understand how many sick and degrading websites there are out there. To say that there are no real links between children/ adolescent viewing pornography and their sexual attitudes in my opinion would be like saying I don’t believe in gravity and jumping off a bridge.

To give the reader a better idea of what "sexually violent"
and "degrading" mean, examples of promotional material found on pornographic Web sites that citizens reported to MIM's www.obscenitycrimes.org Web site

Besides that empirical research suggests that when experimental subjects are exposed to repeated presentations of hardcore non-violent adult pornography over a six-week period, they:

Develop an increased callousness toward women; trivialize rape as a criminal offense; to some it was no longer a crime at all; Develop distorted perceptions about sexuality; Develop an appetite for more deviant, bizarre, or violent types of pornography (escalation); normal sex no longer seemed to "do the job;" Devalue the importance of monogamy and lack confidence in marriage as a lasting institution; and View non-monogamous relationships as normal and natural behavior.

In conclusion it does seem that the fight against the changing attitudes towards sexuality by young people is a battle that can not be won. However it is through voicing my opinion on sites like this one that we can have our opinion’s listed and challenge other people to think about things that they can do. At then I am being pro-active instead of not challenging the tide of abuse promoted by websites and the media in general.
Posted by Matt Perry, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 9:39:18 AM
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Zahira
It is interesting that by their own accounts, a woman is more likely to be injured or abused in the workplace by another woman than by a man, and apparently there are higher rates of abuse in lesbian relationships than there are in heterosexual relationships.

The rates of mental illness amongst unmarried women are also twice the rates of married women, and the rates of physical illness amongst unmarried women are also higher, and their rates of poverty are also higher.

All this would have to be because there is so much abuse of women by men, as everyone knows that men carry out so much abuse of women.

A black eye can take many days or weeks to disappear, and the fact that I have never seen a school girl with a black eye is also quite odd, as 1 in 3 are being sexually assaulted.

I have been through a co-ed school system, and never once saw a girl with a black eye, split lip etc.

I now am going back to co-ed schools to pick up children, or attend school sports and functions, and amongst the 100's of girls I have seen, I have never once seen a girl with a black eye.

At most schools, girls marks are also remaining the same or gradually increasing, but the boys marks are gradually declining. If 1 in 3 girls were being sexually abused, or abused in some other way, then the girls marks would be declining. But they are not.

So although every knowns that 1 in 3 girls are being sexually assaulted, there does not appear to be much evidence of it at all.

And if someone says that 1 in 3 girls are being sexually assaulted, or says that women are being heavily abused, then everyone has to immediately agree, or it could be said that they are ant-female.

CJ. Morgan
Of course everyone should be making posts containing vulgar terms, and expressing vulgar thoughts. Thank God you are no longer a teacher.
Posted by HRS, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 10:22:47 AM
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