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Prejudice is not a joke : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 12/10/2007

The parallels between the rhetoric and attitudes of yesterday's anti-Semitism and today's Muslimphobia are striking.

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I admit to prejudice. Against someone who writes about only one thing. This writer. This topic.

Get a life mate. Read a book other than the Koran for once.
Posted by pegasus, Saturday, 13 October 2007 2:06:49 PM
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Irfan, salam aleikum and salaam Eid. Fortunately I have lived in Islamic countries and travelled the Islamic world and have a Muslim adopted family. One of the most poignant memories was being ill with dengue fever and having my Muslim colleagues bringing me fruits, sending me SMS messages wishing me speedy return to health and at the same time watching on the ABC young Australians beating Muslims on Cronulla beach.
I liken the fanatics in Islam to those like the Right to Life groups in Christianity.. using as one the more cerebrally compromised respondents did, various out of context passages to justify behaviour. As Zaiuddin says, if Islamicists want to wear beards to emulate Mohammed- may peace be upon him- why don't they ride camels and give up cell phones? Its like the Cathlics denying Christ was married and had sex.

This particularity plagues us all. I feel that the situation you paint is dire and I agree that the world is suffering a plague of hate that moderate muslims- who are the majority- need to confront. Without a reformation Islam is at risk of not only attracting global hate through global ignorance (as exemplified by many respondents above) but losing whatever of its greatness still remains. Its contribution to medicine, surgery obstetrics, mathematics and architecture, lost in bile and bluster. The US is making sure that the physical traces of our own civilisation are being wiped out by its bombs, Iran being their next target. Islamicists may ensure the demise of the cultural. But we do not learn from history as the Zionists are proving.

melody
Posted by melody, Saturday, 13 October 2007 2:08:36 PM
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Irfan wrote: "More unfortunate is the fact that prominent Jewish voices can be found among the chorus of Muslimphobes."

Gee, I wonder why that could be?

Hadith Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177]: "The Hour [Resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews, and kill them. And the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, this is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!"

Yes, Islamophobia is driven by fear - fear of the low-level urban war being waged by Muslim minorities against the host populations of the West. Consider the Swedish city of Malmö where some ambulance drivers refuse to travel without a police escort. Or note the Islamic ghettos in France and the Netherlands which have become no-go zones for local police forces, let alone the average French or Dutchman. And nobody should forget the "gratitude" shown by the London bombers to the country which welcomed their parents. But of course, this is all the West's fault. Those nasty "Islamophobic" Europeans opened their borders to immigration from Muslim countries, so they indubitably deserve to be harassed in their own homelands.

You know, Western countries have been remarkably welcoming of Muslim immigrants considering the history of civilisational conflict between the West and the Islamic world. We don't hold Muslims responsible for sacking Constantinople, abducting millions of Europeans for slaves, colonising the Iberian Peninsula, dividing the Balkans or attacking Vienna several times. But recent experiences in Europe seem to indicate that this civilisational animosity is not dead and buried, even though some "useful idiots" in the West are imbued with the hubris that cultural and civilisational differences have been rendered irrelevant by utopian multiculturalism.

Could you imagine if a bunch of European Christians moved into a Muslim country, formed ghettos, started demanding special treatment, began raping local women, torched cars, murdered local politicians but then turned around and blamed their behaviour on "Christianophobia"?
Posted by Dresdener, Saturday, 13 October 2007 2:49:50 PM
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Dresdener,

Brilliant thread...thanks....

When Jewish refugees arrived in Australia pre-World War Two they were advised to keep a very low profile, never speak their native tongue in public and even to stop carrying brief cases for fear of offending the locals.
Posted by Seneca, Saturday, 13 October 2007 5:18:52 PM
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SORRY COUNTS if we are to take our citizenship seriously.

I demand that Australia's Indigenous People get a SORRY for the injustice of our nations colonial past, and that they are properly acknowledged through our CONSTITUTION.

What is the value of diplomacy if our leaders evade the exisitance of a living civilization, through the law.

I also wish to comment on the United States and Turkey's fragile relations.

WHAT VALUE IS DIPLOMACY, if nationhood is reducedto BLAME, BLACKMAIL and DENIAL... ARMS/ OIL and FALSE CLAIMS OF RITUAL and INTERGRITY?

WHAT faith can we put in international relations negotiating alliances, treaties, and agreements?

The transferance of complacency is having a major impact on ADMINISTRATIONS and everyday BUSINESS everywhere. It is darkness reproduced, it makes mockery of our citizenship/s.

I have put a document called "Our Past, Present and Future" up on my website.

I ask the leaders of Australia, United States and Turkey to view this document. It is one important to Austrians.

As citizens we need you overcome the blame, games of fear. The excessive preoccupation of treacherous politics.

Citizens understand that there are two sides to every nations story. That this century has been the most HOSTILE of ALL and that we ALL NEED TO CLEAN UP OUR ACT.

Citizenship is undermined where leadership is pugnacious.

There is no pride in watching bloodshed, poverty and terror.

WAR is reproducing the inter-generational scars we all need to overcome.

MATURITY and a call for "responsiblity" does not just belong to the citzens who are caught between the cross-fire. The refugees, and migrants who unfortunately at a human cost and, appear unwanted everywhere.

I CALL for a GLOBAL MARSHALL PLAN.

We urgently need to get-over the practices of violence, to BE constructive with our human capital and intelligence.

We have the knowledge.

We need the will to address confidence and TRUST in a renewal of our humanity.

We All need to Address our PAST PRESENT and FUTURE NOW.

http://www.miacat.com
Posted by miacat, Saturday, 13 October 2007 6:08:16 PM
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"It is one important to Austrians."

So is Catholicism, apfelstrudel, classical music and Inspector Rex.
Posted by Dresdener, Saturday, 13 October 2007 6:29:22 PM
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