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Silent tears : Comments

By Stephen Hagan, published 22/10/2007

Auntie Rhonda tells her story and that of four generations in her family - all of them from the 'stolen generation'.

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FrankGol: "Why is it that those with the least to say say it most often?"

Yes, indeed.
And your last post was such a tremendous contribution to the discussion.

"I can't decide which topic you know less about - Christ's philosophy or Australian contact history.
Go read something on both topics (after you've finished reading about the White Australia Policy)."

I know plenty about all three topics, thanks.
Not the whitewashed, cherry-picked versions you prefer to believe in because they support your pre-existing mental complexes.

No, the real stuff.
The real Jesus. Not the "sunshine and lollipops" propaganda.

The real contact history.
Not the guilt trip overexaggerations.

Yes, others came before Cook, but they didn't settle here did they?

And, for the most part, both British and Aboriginals *ignored* each other.

If it had been the Germans in 1939 (and let's face it, *somebody* would have turned up eventually), we wouldn't be discussing this, as there wouldn't be a single black left alive.

The real White Australia Policy.
Which was never called such by anybody but pinko posers.
"White Australia" was about preserving our culture, which just happens to be "white" (for want of a better word).

You think race can be disconnected from culture.
Nowadays, maybe. If you are born into a culture unrelated to your biological ancestry.
But even today, that applies to very few of the billions of people on Earth.

In 1901, race *was* culture.

Race is body. Mind requires body. Culture requires Mind.
They all go together.

So if you want "culturally" restrictive immigration, you will, by default, have "racially" restrictive immigration, because if you want to keep out an unrelated "culture", you'll have to keep out the minds and bodies (race) of the people with that culture.
DUH!

Reading books is all you do apparently.
Do you actually *reflect* on anything you read, or is the accumulation of more and more "knowledge" an end in itself.

Knowledge isn't wisdom.

True wisdom may be admitting you know nothing for certain.
So I guess you'll never be wise, as you think you already know everything.
Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 26 October 2007 7:53:47 PM
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Shockaholic: "Race is body. Mind requires body. Culture requires Mind."

Cripes.

"WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH"
Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 26 October 2007 10:36:43 PM
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CJ Morgan, you've just proven (as if we didn't already know) just how ridiculous you are.

Comparing my quite sensible statement with George Orwell's illogical Ministry of Truth is baloney of the highest order, and you know it.

So, Race *isn't* body?
It's not biology?
Prey tell, what is it then?

Mind *doesn't* require body?
So if I remove your brain you'd still be able to think (presuming you can *with* a brain).

Culture doesn't require Mind?
Culture is the learned and practiced living codes of interacting people.
Doesn't this interaction require a Mind?
Amnesiacs can't create or perpetuate culture.

Our supposedly "boring and dumb" culture has invented many world firsts.
It is one of few stable democracies, never experiencing dictatorship or civil war.
It has never experienced severe economic trouble, except when the entire world did in the 1930s.

Considering our political and economic stability, I say three cheers for being Boring and Dumb!
Posted by Shockadelic, Saturday, 27 October 2007 7:56:23 AM
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Shockadelic

Your misunderstanding of the White Australia Policy confirms the ignorance of your earlier posting. You make two claims.

1. The White Australia Policy, you claim, “was never called such by anybody but pinko posers”. That is Australia’s restrictive immigration policy was not the ‘White Australia Policy’. Evidence?

Alfred Deakin PM 1903: “The White Australia Policy goes down to the roots of our national existence, the roots from which the British social system has sprung.”

The Bulletin was renowned in the 1890s for its slogan, “Australia for the White Man”

Conservative Senator Drake-Brockman: "The whole existence of this democracy depends upon our maintenance of the great principle of a White Australia." (Commonwealth Parliamentary Debates, 1920. p 4863)

Jack Lang, Premier of NSW: “White Australia must not be regarded as a mere political shibboleth. It was Australia's Magna Carta.” (I Remember)

The first plank of the ALP’s national manifesto of 1908 was the "Maintenance of White Australia”.

How would you explain books like Myra Willard’s 'History of the White Australia Policy to 1920', MUP, 1923 or EW Cole’s 'Better Side of the Chinese Character: Its Relation to a White Australia and the Development of our Tropical Territory', Coles Book Arcade, Melbourne, 1905.

The Labor, Country and Liberal parties all removed "White Australia" from their platforms in 1965. Why remove something if it doesn’t exist?

2. Your second claim, "’White Australia’ was about preserving our culture, which just happens to be ‘white’.” That is, White Australia was really about culture. Your historical relativism is a weak argument.

The evidence again doesn’t support what you want to believe.

In 1897 George Reid’s Bill for the Exclusion of Inferior Races (sic) passed through both Houses in NSW. No mention of culture – all about race.

The 1908 ALP manifesto aspired to “cultivation of an Australian sentiment, based on the maintenance of racial purity”. Not cultural purity.

Secretary Hunt to PM Barton: "We continue to eject the monstrous Jap and the wily Chow with persistence…” (May 28 1902) Sounds like racism to me.

Read, Shocker. Information is pre-requisite to wisdom.
Posted by FrankGol, Saturday, 27 October 2007 12:38:19 PM
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SHOCHADELIC, IS THAT YOU ARE NOT AWARE AS TO WHAT WE FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIANS OR IT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE SUFFERED AT THE HAND OF THE GOVERMENT EMPLOYEES THAT RUN THESE INSTITUTIONS IN THE STATES OF AUSTRALIA, ORPHANAGES,GILS HOMES ,BOYS HOMES, REMAND CENTRES,FOSTER HOMES ,OUT OF HOME CARE, CHURCH HOMES, WE ARE THE VICTIMS THAT WERE RAPED AND ABUSED BY THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED FOR THIS AUSTRALIAN GOVERMENT WETHER IT WAS UNDER LABOUR OR LIBERAL MINISTRY, AS THEY ARE BOTH TO BLAME AS WHEN EITHER GOVERMENT THAT WAS IN CONTROL OF AUSTRALIA EITHER LABOUR PRIME MINISTER OR LIBERAL PRIME MINISTER THESE ACTS OF CRIMES HAPPEND , LOOK AT THE STORIES WITH YOUR EYES AND READ THE SENATE INQUIRES THEN COME BACK WITH YOUR REAL COMMENTS REGARDS MICHEAL
Posted by huffnpuff, Saturday, 27 October 2007 5:58:39 PM
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Further dispatches from the Ministry Of Truth:

"huffnpuff's psychic pain will heal as soon as the government pays him lots and lots of money"

"Abortion Is Human Rights"

"Collectivism Is Personal Liberty"

"Positive Discrimination Is Equality"

"Globalization is Bad, Internationalism Is Good"

"Capital Punishment Is Wrong, even if Requested by the Prisoner"

"The World is Multicultural, so every Culture within it must also be Multicultural"

"Fur is Good on Eskimos, Evil on Joan Collins"

"Eating Meat is Evil, even though half the Creatures on the Planet do so (even some Plants!), including all the pet Cats and Dogs of Pinko Posers"

"Aboriginals Owned Territory, despite being Nomads with no Warrior Class"

"White Children taken from Negligent Parents are Protected,
Black Children taken from Negligent Parents are Stolen"

"Right Wingers are Nazi Fascists, despite their opposition to Collectivism"

"Australians are Xenophobic, despite eating Pizza and drinking Cappuccino"

"FrankGol is an Expert on Everything Thanks to Reading Thousands of Old Dusty Books,
is Not an Arrogant Tedious Bore at all, and was renowned in the 1890s for his slogan: I Am God."

"The chocolate ration has been increased to 20g a week."
Posted by Shockadelic, Saturday, 27 October 2007 8:17:16 PM
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