FrankGol, you're confusing citizenship with ethnicity.

I'm referring to the latter.

Ethnicity, or nationhood, is not one factor.
It's a combination of many factors *shared* by a community:

1. ancestry.
2. culture (artistic, political, economic)
3. language
4. religion
5. social behaviour
6. geographical territory

These factors *may*, and most must, exist within an ethnicity/nation.

Ethnicity is fluid, but not infinite.

One doesn't necessarily need to share *all* of the common factors to be part of an ethnicity/nation.
But you must share *some* factors.

The fact Aboriginals or migrants may differ in *some* factors doesn't preclude them from being "Australians".

"The 54 ethnic groups?"

Recognised as "Citizens of the *state* Vietnam".
Not the *ethnicity* "Vietnamese".

Likewise, Aboriginals and migrants can be "Citizens of the state Australia", but are only "Australian" to the extent that they *share* common ethnic factors.

The more they share, the more "Australian" they are.
It's not "in" or "out", it's a *matter of degree*.

"How can I argue with you when you can't decide what you believe."

Please don't try to be clever, Frank.
It's *painful*!

Actually I was correcting *CJ Morgan's* statement: "Anthropologists no longer refer to races".
Chastise CJ.

"I wonder where you will place her people in your racial catalogue?
It doesn't look as if they'll get a game in your 'Germanic-Celtic/European/Caucasian majority' team."

Again, painful.

As stated before, Australia is a *colony*.
So there's both a native and colonial "Australia".

Aboriginals (and migrants) can be part of the majority ethnicity/nation (many already are, and live ordinary "boring and dumb" suburban lives like their white neighbours).

An Aboriginal who simply lives within the territory of the state Australia, but shares *no other* common ethnic factors with the majority, would be defined "Australian" by citizenship only.

His "ethnicity" would be that of his tribe.

Somebody forgot to tell these people that ethnic nationalism is "so last century"
(See if you can spot the recurring theme):

Turkey: Majority ethnic Turks, Turkish language, 94% Muslim.

Lesotho: 99% Sotho, Sotho/English languages, 90% Christian.

Japan: 99% Japanese, Japanese language.

Somalia: 99% Somali, Somali language, majority Sunni Islam.

Greece: 99% Greek, Greek language, 98% Greek Orthodox.

South Korea: 99% Korean, Korean language.

Jordan: 98% Arab, Arabic language, 92% Muslim

Taiwan: 98% Han (82% Taiwanese Han), Mandarin language.

Bangladesh: 98% Bengalis, Bangla language, 89% Muslim.

Sweden: 98% Swedish, Swedish language, 78% Lutheran.

Armenia: 97% Armenians, Armenian language, 94% Armenian Apostolic.

Finland: 97% Finns (92% Finnish language speakers), 82% Lutheran.

Egypt: 97% Egyptians, Egyptian Arabic Language, 90% Muslim.

Poland: 96% Poles, Polish language, 95% Roman Catholic.

Tuvalu: 96% Polynesian, Tuvaluan/English languages, 97% Church of Tuvalu.

Portugal: 96% Portuguese. Portuguese language, majority Roman Catholic.

Albania: 95% Albanians, Albanian language, 70% Muslim.

Italy: 95% Italians, Italian language, 87% Roman Catholic.

Czech Republic: 95% Czechs, Czech language.

Hungary: 94% Hungarians, Hungarian language, 51% Roman Catholic.

Samoa: 92% Samoan, Samoan/English languages, 99% Christian.

China: 91% Han, Mandarin language.

Azerbaijan: 91% Azeris, 96% Azerbaijani language, 89% Shia Islam.

Germany: 91% Germans, German language.

Denmark: 91% Danes, Danish language, 83% Lutheran.

Mongolia: 90% Mongols, Khalkha Mongol language, 98% Buddhist.

Norway: 90% Norwegians, Norwegian language, 86% Lutheran.

Cambodia: 90% Khmer, Khmer language, 96% Theravada Buddhist.

Iceland: 90% Icelanders, Icelandic language, 87% Lutheran.

Saudi Arabia: 90% Arabs, Arabic language, 99% Muslim.

Bhutan: 90% Northern Bhutanese, Dzongkha language (native to Bhutan), 98% Lamaistic Buddhist.

Croatia: 89% Croats, 96% Croatian language, 87% Roman Catholic.

Romania: 89% Romanians, Romanian language, 86% Romanian Orthodox.

Uruguay: 88% White European, Spanish language, 62% Roman Catholic.

Liechtenstein: 86% Alemannic, German/Alemannic languages, 76% Roman Catholic.

Vietnam: 86% Vietnamese (a.k.a. Viet, a.k.a. Kinh), Vietnamese language, 83% Mahayana Buddhist.

Ireland: 86% Irish, Irish/English languages, 86% Roman Catholic.

Slovakia: 85% Slovaks, Slovak language, 60% Roman Catholic.

Turkmenistan: 85% Turkmen, Turkmen language, 89% Muslim.

Bulgaria: 83% Bulgarians, Bulgarian language, 82% Bulgarian Orthodox.

Georgia: 83% Georgians, Georgian language, 65% Georgian Orthodox.

I could go on and on and on....

Oh, okay I will.

Lithuania: 83% Lithuanians, Lithuanian language, majority Roman Catholic.

Slovenia: 83% Slovenes, Slovenian language, 57% Roman Catholic.

Belarus: 81% Belarusians, Belarusian/Russian languages.

Netherlands: 80% Dutch, Dutch language.

Tajikistan: 79% Tajiks, Persian language (Tajiki dialect), 85% Sunni Islam.

Russia: 79% Russians, Russian language, 60% Orthodox.

Botswana: 79% Tswana, Tswana language, 71% Christian.

Ukraine: 77% Ukrainians, Ukrainian language, 83% Orthodox.

Moldova: 76% Moldovans, Moldovan language, 98% Eastern Orthodox.

Israel: 76% Jewish, Hebrew/Arabic languages.

Uzbekistan: 71% Uzbeks, 74% Uzbek language, 88% Muslim.

Estonia: 68% Estonians, Estonian language.

Burma: 68% Bamar, Burmese language, 89% Theravada Buddhist.

Brunei: 67% Malay, Malay language, 58% Muslim.

Cuba: 65% White Cuban (primarily Spanish ancestry), Spanish language, 85% Roman Catholic pre-Castro.

Kyrgyzstan: 64% Kyrgyz, Kyrgyz/Russian languages, 75% Muslim.

Macedonia: 64% Macedonians, Macedonian language, 70% Macedonian Orthodox.

Laos: 60% Lao, Lao language, majority Buddhist.

Latvia: 58% Latvians, Latvian language, majority Christian.

Kazakhstan: 53% Kazakhs, Kazakh/Russian languages, 47% Muslim.

Iran: 51% Persians, 58% Persian language, 90% Shia Islam.

Countries that are multi-ethnic are usually colonies, borderlands or federations.

Colonies had their boundaries determined by the *colonists*, not the natives, forcing all the native ethnicities and the colonists to all live under one *artificial* roof.

Borderlands, like Switzerland, lie at the edges of several ethnicities (German, Italian, French).

Federations, like India, taken as a whole *appear* diverse, but each ethnicity has a *regional dominance* in one part of the country.
A nation of nations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:South_asia_local_lang.PNG

In most countries, historically and today, you see this pattern:
1. A dominant ethnic group.
2. A dominant language (of this group).
3. A dominant religion (again, of this group).

Minorities exist everywhere, but tolerance of them doesn't require the *redefinition* of the principal common ethnicity.

Shared factors in a community is the *norm*, not the exception.
The exceptions are usually the result of misguided colonialism and misguided immigration.

Most people, except a few ivory tower buffoons, can see the detrimental results of *both* these misguided policies.

What's done is done, but should we *keep* making the same mistakes?

Hey Shocker

Your pretty good on transcription. You'll set hearts racing with that wondrous list.

And it's so benevolent of you to allow Aboriginals to become Australians. But I've got some questions for you.

I notice that Aboriginals can only "become 'Australian' to the extent that they *share* common ethnic factors". Perhaps you could tell us what the common ethnic factors are that they must share? You say, "The more they share, the more 'Australian' they are." It's a matter of degree, you say. What is the turning point at which Aboriginals would become Australians?

I wonder what they are while waiting to qualify?

If I understand your policy position correctly, Jews could have become Germans in Germany in the 1930s. Why did Hitler try to get rid of them all?

You claim: "Countries that are multi-ethnic are usually colonies, borderlands or federations." Can you tell me some countries which are not 'multi-ethnic'?

"It's so benevolent of you to allow Aboriginals to become Australians."

You will discover that when the mood takes me, I can be quite generous.

"Transcription"?

Research, Frank.
Something you *encouraged* me to do before.

Ignorant? Unacceptable!
Informed? Unacceptable!

No more references to "Vietnamese" ethnicity?
Can't ever admit you're wrong, can you?

You ignore my statement about the detrimental effects of colonisation and immigration.
No doubt you agree on colonisation.

But cultural destruction through immigration is acceptable to you.
Two wrongs make a right?

If "white" culture's threatened, whatever!
If "black" culture's threatened, OMIGOD, call an ambulance!

"If I understand your policy position correctly, Jews could have become Germans in Germany in the 1930s.
Why did Hitler try to get rid of them all?"

Jews *were* Germans in the 1930s.
And the 1870s.
And the 1760s.
And the 1680s.
And the 1520s...

Hitler defined "ethnicity" more strictly than me (or anthropologists).

He said you must have *all* factors in common within a strict boundary.
I (and the anthropologists) say you need *some* common factors within a fluid boundary.

His ideology wasn't really based on ethnicity.
That's a red herring or smokescreen.

The real agenda was *perfectionism*.
Which is why even some ethnic Germans were killed (they weren't perfect enough).

Perfectionism is FrankGol's agenda too.

Hence the "inferior" ethnicity of Australia must be destroyed, and anyone who disagrees with him is instantly ridiculed.
Remind you of anybody?

"Tell us what the common ethnic factors are that they must share?"
"I wonder what they are while waiting to qualify?"

These questions were answered in the post itself.
Are you a baby, Frank?

"You claim: "Countries that are multi-ethnic are usually colonies, borderlands or federations."
Can you tell me some countries which are not 'multi-ethnic'?"

More baby talk.

After listing many countries that feature a dominant ethnic majority, could I be referring to countries *unlike* the ones I just listed.
Countries where no ethnicity is the majority.
Put 2 and 2 together, Frank.

Okay, Frankie Wankie.
Here comes the munchy train!
Choo choo choo.
That's a good boy!

Uh-oh, someone smells stinky!

HI TO ALL THE FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIANS I SEND ALL MY BEST TO YOU ALL , AS WE ARE ALL STILL SUFFERING FROM THE RAPES AND ABUSE THAT WE OCCURRED AT THE HANDS OF THE GOVERMENT EMPLOYERS THAT WORKED FOR THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERMENT IN THEIR STATES RUN INSTITUTIONS NO MATTER WHAT HOME IT WAS ,AND YES D.O.C.S. WERE THE ONES WHO HAD CONTROL OF ALL INSTITUTIONS AND THAT OF THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY ,SO THE GOVERMENT HAS TO TELL THE TRUTH AS TO WHAT HAPPEND TO US VICTIMS ,SWEPPING THIS UNDER THE CARPET IS ONLY MAKING THE GOVERMENT EVEN WORSE , ,isnt it true that the white man landed on australian soil and they came across the aboriginals so its ovious they were here before any other nationality person, ,ALSO ,I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO THOSE OUT THERE THAT SEEM TO NOT UNDER STAND WHAT WE SUFFERED AND STILL ARE COVERING UP FOR THE GOVERMENTS OF AUSTRALIA, AS I SAID IN ALL THE POST IVE WRITTEN IN THE EARLIER POST THAT BOTH LABOUR AND LIBERAL ARE RESPONSABLE FOR WHAT WE SUFFERED BY THE PEDOPHILES THAT WORK FOR THEIR GOVERMENT RUN INSTITUTIONS, AS THIS ABUSES WERE OCCURRING AS EACH GOVERMENT HANDED OVER POWER FROM EITHER LIBERAL OR LABOUR AS THESE ABUSES OCCURRED WHEN LABOUR WAS PRIME MINISTER AND WHEN LIBERAL IS IN POWER , ALSO IF I WANT TO WRITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS I WILL AS BELLY HAD A GO AT ME IN A POST ABOUT IT WELL BELLY IM YELLING THIS OUT BECAUSE WE WANT THE TRUTH TO BE KNOWN SO SEENS IM NOT A COMPUTOR EXPERT I WILL USE THESE CAPILTALS SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE BETWEEN THE LINES THAT I WRITE , THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERMENT IS STILL PROTECTING THE PEDOPHILES THAT WORKED FOR THOSE INSTITUTIONS AND MANY OTHER INSTITUTIONS , AS I ALSO NOTICE THIS IS THE ONLY CONTRY THAT HAS A GOVERMENT THAT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIAN VICTIMS ,ALSO HAVE NOT GOT THE GUTS TO TELL THE TRUTH OF WHAT WE SUFFERED,