The greater hypocrisy is the inconsistent treatment of addiction. Tobacco, alcohol, addictive prescription drugs, and gambling, provide a substantial revenue raising base. Doing the same with drugs like heroin simply would not generate the same economic activity as prohibition, as such drugs would never have the same public appeal to make legalisation a profitable exercise. So the conversion of human life to money will continue. New drugs such as ice might threaten the cosy arrangement by virtue of their greater potential for addiction and harm. Should the cost of prohibition become too great, then other methods of control will become a matter of necessity.

Again, how can anyone claim to know the best way to regulate drugs of addiction? Delivering the best outcome for addicts and society should be the gold standard. Why should the method be relevant?

Work commitments, Been unable to get here until today

Desipis “Wow, way to cherry pick.”

No less than you choose the cherry pick elements of my posts

Like “punishment for petty theft the same as murder,” something I never even suggested.

I said second offence drug dealing – execute.

The crime is more heinous than, say a murder acted out of passion because the drug dealer is indifferent to the victim, similar to a serial killer selecting victims at random and a second offence means “serial activity”.

As for “We should treat addicts to help them become productive members of society”

That presumes addicts sincerely want to be free of their addiction – but I never suggested a death penalty for addicts, lets face it, they have sought one for themselves in their pursuit of a narcotic abdication from real life.

So how do you “treat” those who decline and evade treatment?

Fester your attempt to adjoin the use of crack cocaine etc. with smoking or gambling is pure hysteria and sounds like desperation.

Many things can be compulsive / addictive, including internet posting and solariums. The difference with alcohol, gambling or smoking versus methamphetamine is simple, the probability of addiction, premature death and hallucinogenic delusion and violence is significantly less in the former than the latter.

The only good drug dealer is a dead one and only when the police and authorities balance the penalties for dealing commensurate with the rewards from dealing, will we see real change. That means confiscation of assets, a dead dealer needs none and their value could help fund government like government is funded through legal pursuits

"Fester your attempt to adjoin the use of crack cocaine etc. with smoking or gambling is pure hysteria and sounds like desperation."

So you understand the nature of addiction do you Col? Congratulations on a human first. Having such an understanding would reveal why some are easily drawn to addiction whilst others are not. It would also lead to corrective medical therapies.

Yet the solutions you draw from your phenomenal insight confuses me Col. Seeing addicts as worthless humanity and calling for executions doesn't strike me as advancing civilisation. It also seem to be in contrast with other advances in medical science, like treatments for bacterial infections, diabetes and mental illness.

Hopefully a successful medical treatment for addiction will be found soon. Then the chorus of biggoted ignoramuses can go off and find themselves another nigger.

Fester “So you understand the nature of addiction do you Col?”

Only since you ask, I understand giving up smoking is tough. After 25 years of smoking, I went cold turkey. I guess, I understand more than you will ever know.

“Seeing addicts as worthless humanity and calling for executions”

I have not posted anything which suggests a social value of addicts.

I have suggested second offence (serial) drug dealers, not addicts, be executed.

“Hopefully a successful medical treatment for addiction will be found soon.

I am sure they exist already, the problem is getting addicts to use them and to then stay clean.

“the chorus of biggoted ignoramuses can go off and find themselves another nigger.”

Well don’t feel blue, with regard to that cheap line, your nigger is “zero tolerance”.

As for “doesn't strike me as advancing civilisation.”

Surrendering society to drug abuse and the degeneration which ensues will not advance it one little bit, it will accelerate the rate and likelihood of decline.

But don’t you worry about that, drugs will allow you to withdraw into your own confused fantasy, oblivious to reality.

For me, my life is very, very good and “drug free”. No hangovers, no DT or withdraws.

Any junkie you know who wants to know how to live that way, send them to this site and I will be happy to “share” with them.

Lesson 1 – be responsible for your life and the consequences of your actions.

Lesson 2 – a drug fantasy lasts but for a few moments but reality will always be there. Escape from ones own reality is never possible.

If you ask nicely, I will share more.

“I have seen reasonable people turn into useless, self-centered and selfish tossers who think nothing of stealing from their family to feed their addiction.”

One of my siblings has a problem with alcohol, and despite this, has achieved much in life, and continues to achieve. So the above comment I find personally offensive, Col.

“Only since you ask, I understand giving up smoking is tough. After 25 years of smoking, I went cold turkey. I guess, I understand more than you will ever know.”

This is very true, Col. But the difference is genes and environment, and perhaps only genes. Maybe I could go cold turkey and not have any problem doing so, though I would first have to start wouldn't I? I'm sure there are some who could, and hopefully they dont share your view that the ability to quit is a measure of one's character.

““Hopefully a successful medical treatment for addiction will be found soon.”

I am sure they exist already, the problem is getting addicts to use them and to then stay clean.”

Then it isn't a successful treatment, is it? I could tell an obese person that he would lose weight by eating less. This would be a successful treatment but for the fat man's compliance.

Fester what you are talking about is more drugs to try to stop the use of other drugs.

Addiction is a weakness in character, it has nothing to do with genes and everything to do with personality and environment