i was referring to mcmahon. it escapes me why online opinion gives so much space to this vacuous liberal shill.

In short the choices are these,we either increase tarrifs in selected areas or lower our wages to compete with the likes of China and India.Now with limited energy/resources and with a growing world pop living standards for most of us in Western Societies under Globalisation must fall.

We in Australia would be better off keeping the bulk of our energy for ourselves since cheap energy underpins quality living standards.We have opted for a Global game with no rules which we cannot possibly win.We have vast quantities of energy/resources/land which makes us the envy of the planet.Why do so many of us work such long hours for so little reward?

I know how you feel Tapp it is like banging your head against the wall.
They know not what they do they are campaigning themselves into unemployment. India and China have low wages and their economy is booming they have gone from strength to strength since our Companies have set up business over there. Here we have organised labour and that is not good for prosperity and profits. Tapp you believe in what you are doing and stay true to yourself when all looks futile. Our newspapers need the educate their readers a lot more than they are doing already. It would pay the West Australian and the Sunday Times to deliver them free of charge to get our message accross. Foxtel needs to reduce the rental charge to bombard their viewers regarding the management of our economy and the dangers once the Trade Unions hold our country to ransom. Tapp we will have to get together to try and tackle the unfair negative attacks upon our leadership have you any ideas ?

Australia First your input is so articulate you do have a way with words. You overwhelm me you get home to the core issues. We need to do a lot more to destroy Trade Unionism and seperate them from all other workers. Workplace Reform
The Australian Government’s workplace reforms are the next step in the evolution of a more decentralised workplace relations system. The reforms are major but not extreme. They are sensible and fair steps to further strengthen the Australian economy and bring on the next wave of productivity improvement which will benefit all Australians.

A workplace relations system is only as good as the contribution it makes to the strength of the economy. All the regulations in the world will not save somebody’s job, or push up wages, if our economy is weak or if firms are uncompetitive.

Through its reforms the Government has transformed the Australian economy into one of the strongest in the world. Around 2 million jobs have been created, the real wages of Australian workers have risen by 17.9 per cent, the unemployment rate is at its lowest levels in 30 years and interest rates have been significantly reduced.

Since the introduction of WorkChoices in March 2006, more than 200,000 new jobs have been created (December 2006), the largest increase in employment in an eight month period since records began.

Australia’s high living standards rely on the productivity of our workplaces. Just as today’s prosperity has been built by Australians working smarter over the past decade, so we must unleash a new burst of productivity growth to secure our future prosperity.

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WorkChoices has three major elements:

The introduction of a national workplace relations system for the first time;
The simplification of the agreement making process; and
A better balancing of the unfair dismissal laws.

Come on! you can not believe our Julie is from the ALP? it is Joe hockey!
Heard it all before Australia knows the truth and the polls show it.
yesterday a Ferrell boss asked for reductions in his next agreement, for months he and me[the union ] waded thought it bit by bit.
We ended up with a document much the same as every one else in the industry.
3% wage increases each of 3 years far below par.
Each step he agreed with until he put the final draft to his legal service provider.
Nar you can do better using workchoices was the advice.
so already low income casual workers asked to take wage cuts from existing agreement of $3 an hour, meal allowance[fixed in award]of $3 less.
someone like Julie gave that advice.
Happy ending coming up Ferrell boss forgot his EBA has 18 months to run, that HE asked US to redraft it!
A book inspection may well cost him much back pay and his AWAs he will impose after will cost him his staff!
Better wages are available same work next door.

Good god. It's like politics for preschool with some posters in here.

Australia 1st. Very amusing. Now that I know the precise definitions of crud, I can quite easily apply it to your post, which offers naught but 'crud' in terms of analysis.

But Julie Vickers, yours really takes the cake in terms of spotty reasoning, largely because it pretends to be addressing issues. You've offered no real arguments, just a parrotted line. "Trade unions are bad. Save our economy."

Fess up. You're a Liberal party stooge right? this sounds like their MO, but earlier posters are right insofar as it's not working. You'll have to actually engage with posters here, or you're turning off more voters than you're assisting.
You need to understand that blatant propaganda like that isn't working any more.

Now. I'm no fan of trade unions but when you say "We need to do a lot more to destroy Trade Unionism and seperate them from all other workers" you reveal yourself to be a conservative simpleton.

What's a union? A workers co-operative, that has banded together to exercise some influence when negotiating for workers conditions.

Clearly unions have gone too far in many instances, however, to destroy trade unions entirely you have to rely on market forces. This is fine when your economy is booming, but there is to be an inevitable slowdown. This is when workers rights need to be protected.
Economically libertarian theories have their own flaws, but few are willing to acknowledge that, which is why a socially libertarian system exists.
Your proposal would encourage a system like the US, where waitresses for instance, can be paid an absolute pittance, and a full time job on minimum wage can't support someone.

Honestly - pick up your game JV. As it stands, you're insulting our intelligence.