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Our finite planet: planning for a decline in our oil bounty : Comments

By Michael Lardelli, published 20/8/2007

Residents of our outer suburbs are almost completely dependent on car transport. We need to plan now for less and more expensive oil.

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Did anyone else notice a comment made by John Howard on the ABC the
other night quote;

expressed concern about global warming and "energy security" .
Whichever way you look at it it had to be a code word for peak oil.
I have heard Peter Costello say similar things but this is the first
time I have heard the PM even hint at fuel problems.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 23 August 2007 7:54:15 AM
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I don't get it.

If you believe John Howard about the Australian economy, then If the Captain had ferried more and more passengers onto Titanic before it hit the Iceberg then the boat's cash registers would have turned over more and they would have had enough money to stop the ship sinking after the iceberg tore a hole in its side.

Isn't that exactly John Howard's view of the Australian economy as it approaches a 2025 collision with peak oil? Stuff 160,000 migrants every year mercilessly into the 5 big Australian capitals and collect more taxes so we can use it in the last death throes of Peak Oil. I can assure everyone reading this, that money will lose its value rapidly, well before Peak Oil climaxes. Probably within the next 10 years. The key marker will be when petrol prices rise to $10 per litre. The last thing Australia needs then is millions more energy-hungry violent aspirational voting migrants in sardine-can cites to deal with. It would make Rwanda look like a Sunday school picnic.

And If my posts, showing up Howard's continuing foppish dishonesty, personally cause him to lose his Bennelong seat will he be able to sue me for loss of earnings? Under Howard's newest legislation, loss of earnings due to another's free speech being believed, sets that author up to be sued at no cost to the litigant by your and my favourite reluctant-dragon agency, the ACCC.

You can bet your life the ACCC will be able to do for politicians what it never could do or wanted to do for consumers.
Posted by KAEP, Thursday, 23 August 2007 5:31:07 PM
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Is the oil going to run out in our lifetimes? Knowing the Bible, I would have to say probably not. Once upon the whole earth was a hothouse and green was everywhere (thats a huge amount of green matter...global rainforest bigger than we can imagine). If we read Genesis chapter 2 verse 6... "but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground" (NIV). King James version says "a mist came up" and wet everything. Genesis 1 talks about an expanse separating the waters below from the waters above and that this expanse was called sky. Here we see atmosphere between the waters below and the waters above creating a water canopy or a bubble above the earth. When God flooded the earth, down came the waters above and from then on we have an open sky with no waters above... in pouring the UV etc. and deserts beginning to form through a lack of the mist. I really believe that there is plenty of oil down there, its just that the whole of the earth is under a timetable, Gods timetable, and we are simply running out of that time. If you know your Bible you can see time wrapping up. Most of the oil will probably go to 1. wars and conflicts and national resistances as sinful man clashes with sinful man; and to 2. disasters. Luke chapter 21 I use a lot because it tells of the last days and gives a vision of time running out according to a timetable. Revelation likewise adds to this vision. The oil is there but we wont pump it out in time and what is available will go to those two events.
Posted by Gibo, Monday, 17 September 2007 10:13:14 AM
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Oh Gibo; I don't think you have to worry about the extremes of
the earths history and future.
It is quite simple really. There is a certain amount of oil under the
ground and most of the easy to get out oil has been used and now we
are after the rest. It will cost more to get out and it will not come
out as fast, but it will be coming out for a long time yet.
It will just cost a lot more and will have to be rationed in one way
or another.
So you can forget your biblical worries and just for starters buy a
smaller car next time.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 17 September 2007 12:08:46 PM
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