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The choice between a bad option or a worse one : Comments

By James Boyce, published 12/7/2007

If the government is not going to remove abused Indigenous children from their communities, what are they going to do with them?

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Come on James. Silly question. Howard and Brough haven't actually thought about this at all as you know. The knees are still jerking and there has been no polls benefit so they have already lost interest.

Do you hear Howard, Brough or any government MP even mentioning this issue today, only a week or so after the invasion was announced?

No you don't. They don't and never expected to actually get to the stage of what to do with the kids. It was just a ploy, as usual, by Howard to find a Rudd wedge. He can't so these people will suffer the disinterest of another pointless government exercise. For votes which has failed.

What do I suggest? Simple James, get rid of Howard, the ALP and Coalition. Get rid of Party politics and have MP's actually represent their electorates. Remove Party loyalties altogether and then we may get some real interest in Australia and Australians. Including indigenous people who have long been ignoired whenever possible.
Posted by pegasus, Thursday, 12 July 2007 9:08:44 AM
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Hello James

I suspect this current 'national emergency' circus is as close as much of city Australia will get to any form of engagement with the previous sole occupants of the joint, albeit from the mediated comfort of indoors for most of us. One thing that has changed for us merry invaders however is the shape of the Trojan Horse to a more pleasing vehicle, although it seems that its equine visage of care is fracturing irreparably.

My personal bet is that this awful nonsense is a way of the Commonwealth finding a better solution to tricky mining leases and future nuclear waste dump sites. Why the fairly sound main opposition party hasn't spoken up about this is interesting although Parliament only had an afternoon to go when the 'national emergency response' was announced so maybe they're keeping their powder dry until the next sitting.

That said, I don't have any solutions to the real problems facing the down-trodden in this country. But then again, I don't pretend to. However, the more we discuss it, the less time we spend considering the real issues behind all this sudden urgency.

To close, the future happiness and well-being of Aboriginal Australians will take as long to figure out and get right as it did for us all to bugger it all up. With or without uranium mining it will take fifty elections, and, dare it be said, possibly a bit of love.

Simon Bedak
"Lorraine"
Wagga Wagga NSW 2650
Posted by simon bedak, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:10:11 AM
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The Little Children are Sacred report is a good starting point for both questions and answers. It is a long report as might be expected however it is very readable and you can short-cut to the recommendations. See here:

www.nt.gov.au/dcm/inquirysaac/pdf/bipacsa_final_report.pdf

The report is an excellent starting point for informed discussion - why reinvent the wheel?
Posted by Cornflower, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:21:10 AM
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What choice? Under this current government there has never been a choice. it's either johnnys way or no way.

What I would like to know is : if this is not a political plus land grab fiasco then when is the government going to march the army and federal police into Melbourne,Sydney,Brisbane etc?

Is the PM saying that child abuse only exsists in Aboriginal commnities? Do no non Indigenous peoples commit these things. But he says no in a previous media release. SO again when is the same process going to happen in these places?

My bet is that he will not enforce the same strategy currenty being handed out to the NT becasue the southern population (which is where the NT can never win because of numbers ie. you can fit the entire NT population in the MCG) would not stand for invasive medical examinations. Would they? My other bet is that he may do something similar but very controlled and less invasive so as not to upset too many of his voters.

Anyone who believes we are living in a democracy is not living in Australia. This is 'children overboard people, nothing short of.

Lastly, how low does a politician have to go to use child abuse as a tactic to ensure he wins another election?

PM, you are worse than Hitler as describe by Keating. At lest with Hitler you knew what his true intentions were about.
Posted by TOPENDA, Thursday, 12 July 2007 1:14:57 PM
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Wow! Howard Haters Having A Debate!Now that is a great help to frightened little kids. Not.
The most important thing that comes to mind is , remove not the children ,remove the abusers.
Secondly give the elder women enough power to monitor the situation and take heed of what they say.
Make sure that every Aboriginal child is educated from kindergarten to High school with teaching into nutrition,domestic skills and simple carpentry, plumbing.
The young people need to fill their days with creative pastimes, all young people need that.
Posted by mickijo, Thursday, 12 July 2007 3:15:37 PM
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The evidence that some people have no idea of the subject is already here in this thread.
The question is it only Aboriginal children who are assaulted is sad and proves my point.
Yes whites do it too, but not in the numbers it happens right across Australia in Aboriginal community's.
That is right, over all not as a percentage more Aboriginal children suffer than in the rest of the community.
The true right and true left never in their lives contributed to a result in this or any issue.
How can the real pain inflicted on these kids,, tonight and every night be just a debating point?
How can we ever find an end to this without a start?
Why did ALL past and present governments fail to start fixing it?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 12 July 2007 4:45:32 PM
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