Frank,
You said: “I can hear their brains rattling even now”

The noise is not coming from your opponents, its emanating from you. And it’s not being made by the head, but a lower part of your anatomy.Must be your b-b-b-big knees knocking together (definitely couldnt be anything else) Suggest you wear 'comfy' long-johns on these cold winter nights - it would do wonders for your disposition too.

My purposefully strong invective against anti-multiculturalism showed what it’s like when posters throw personal abuse and make absurdly magical claims about ‘isms’ without a shred of argument or evidence.

(e.g. ‘MultiCulturalism as a means to political domination’; ‘multiculturalism has implied that immigrants can be an island and just take from the society’; ‘MC is a failed attempt of social engineering’; (and in the same post) ‘multiculturalism is a misnomer’; ‘Multiculturalism is a one-way street’; ‘Multiculture has set our country back at least three decades’; ‘MC seperated people into groups, putting their culture before that of Australia’; etc etc.)

‘Isms’ like multiculturalism and philosophical labels don’t do anything. It’s people who do things, make decisions, stop things happening,

I’ve now been accused of ‘discrimination’, ‘arrogance’ and ‘dishonesty and PC nonsense’. I’ve been compared with Hitler, challenged to show how ‘white Aussies reconcile the cultural traditions of indigenous Australians that are in conflict with the UN statement on the rights of children’ and told that while there is ‘an element of truth in [my] little diatribe’, there is a noise coming from ‘a lower part of [my] anatomy’. And all over a word!

Only one poster (you get your gold star back David) had the good sense to suggest that ‘We need to remove ourselves from these extreme and entrenched positions, and actually look at the concept of MultiCulturalism’.

So let’s have a moratorium on vacuous sloganeering with terms like ‘multiculturalism’, ‘left’ and ‘right’. Now there’s a radical idea!

Too cute by half FrankGol. Hence my question. Which you chose to lump in with the insults and generalities of others.
I chose this question because it is timely, and relevant to the practical application of multiculturalism. And because I thought your answer might be illuminating.
Your non-answer; and categorization of my question as an example of my self loathing etc, is illuminating in its own way.

So, as someone who accepts the overall workability of 'mc', but feels free to question specific issues the policy raises, and even (god forbid) disagree with some of the specific outcomes; I'd like to know what your answer is.
Do we agree with the cultural tradition of 'marriage' of 13 yo's when it works, and only disagree when the 'bride' regards it with horror?, and the subsequent sex as rape? I know the anti's answer, but what is the pro's viewpoint?

Australian's never wanted this farce upon called, "multiculturalism" and are waking up to making themselves heard against the left wing ideology of his mantra.

What made the rubbish become disliked even more, is the behaviour of immigrants refusing to follow our laws, refusing to intergrate, keeping amongst themselves to the point that it is common for asians to refuse whites service in their shops in areas such as Cabramatta, racial tribalism as they buy up whole suburbs to themselves, etc.

There is one rule for them, one rule for us. One only has to see how Muslims who smashed a man's skull for being white walked out of court with smiles for being let off, yet a white man who simply wore a shirt opposing this mantra, went to prison. Then there's the Leb's driving about carrying illegal lethal weapons yet police were not allowed to charge them but a young white man dragging a tree branch, not using it as a weapon, was sentenced for carrying a lethal weapon.

Not that the Islamics help themselves when they say that they should be able to marry and have sex with 9 year old girls, ignore Australian law, call for Jihads and more while in Australia.

The only whites who are racists, are the whites who hate other whites.

Spider, you seem to have a lot of pent-up aggression which is not backed up by any facts. If you step back and look at yourself with a grain of salt, you will see that you sound extremely racist and hateful of other cultures living in Australia.

I have the following questions for you:

a). What specific facts do you have to support claims that people from other cultures keep to themselves and do not integrate. Do you have statistics, research, etc or just your skewed perceptions to guide you? Please give me concrete EVIDENCE.

b). How do you explain away the fact that Australia is essentially a migrant country. Migrants contribute immensely (and arguably more than Ango-Australians) to our scientific and cultural growth as a nation, and to our skilled workforce. Do you have any EVIDENCE that migrants have been ecomonically detrimental to Australia?

c). Where does your dislike of migrants come from? On what specifically, other than apparent misinformation and a lot of prejudice, is it based?

I look forward to hearing your reasoned and FACT-BASED response (please do not include racial hatred spout).

Regards,

Dronkey.

Yvonne,
You said,"Multiculturalism helped me and others like me become a real part of this nation"

Can you explain how you were helped?

I recall having many 'New Australian' friends during my school days and had workmates, friends and aquaintences of many nationalities, including aboriginals, as I grew older This was well before the introduction of MC and we all got along in the usual way.

After MC came into being(1970s) there were no 'New Australians' but people of different nationalities. It was certainly implied that these people did not have to become Australian, but should retain their own nationality. This lead to the seperation into ethnic groups and the divisivness that I mentioned earlier. Even the term 'New Australian' seems a lot more warm and inclusive than 'ethnic'.

I would like to know how MC helped you as distinct from the integration we had before. Multiculturalism in no way emphasized Australian nationalism.