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Religion has never been good for our health : Comments

By Brian Holden, published 15/6/2007

Straight-forward scientific research is at the mercy of the educated, but scientifically illiterate, supported by a cheer squad of know-nothings.

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'The cry for 'free thinking' which allows pornography, drugs and free sex to be freely available again affects the most vulnerable.'

What a complete load of rubbish runner. I would have thought that the absence of any thinking at all allows for the incursion of porn, drugs, and free sex.

Indeed I would say that religion is indirectly responsible for these things. Religion encourages the non-questioning, non-thinking allegiance and submission to an invisible God. Therefore, when religion loses its influence in any even society the end result is nihilism. This is because religion has allowed society to atrophy to the point where it has lost the art of sceptical, rational, independent and creative thinking.

We need more 'free thinking' runner, not less. This is because 'free-thinking' has nothing to do with the mindless pursuits of Paris Hilton or your average clergyman, but everything to do with the brilliant scepticism of Dawkins or Grayling.

Indeed, a great place for Western society to begin its rejuvenation would be to make Darwinism pre-eminent. In this great body of knowledge we have the real certainty of the scientific method and none of the pie-in-the-sky waffle of religion. And not having the inherent tribalism of religions only Darwinism and science can be truly humanistic and benevolent to the mutual benefit of all.

Lastly, Darwin's Birthday (Feb 12) SHOULD be a National Holiday. A day to celebrate humanity and our unique and important place in the biosphere.
Posted by TR, Saturday, 16 June 2007 12:17:43 PM
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"The cry for 'free thinking' which allows pornography, drugs and free sex to be freely available again affects the most vulnerable."

What dribble: In the Middle Ages the priests would rape young women and blame the incubi. When Joan of Arch was burnt at the stake her private parts were shown publicly. Lot knew is daughters in the biblical sense after becoming drunk. Evey second there is a story of priest child molestation and the Bishop covering it up. Peter Abalard was castrated so her could not hold ecclecliastical office, being a eunuch, where her could not promote the the "Non" art of Sic et Non. The Christrian crusaders killed Muslims and fellow Christians with equal zeal. And there was the Inquisition. The dustruction of historical sites by Christians [Like the Taliban today.] Hebrews were allowed by god to rape the women of defeated armies. Ehen Christians "hung", drew and quartered people, they were hung sveral times, so the man would be embarrassed by puclic ejaculation. Galileo was shown and threated with Christian instruments of torture. A doctor, who lived, described at the how the sinews in his limbs were torns apart. The Church did not have to present evidence at the trial but only say "it existed". Other astronomers were not so lucky, they where burnt at the stake by Christians for saying the sun was the centre of the solar system. Christian pioneer settlers gave blackets as gifts to the indigeous people deliberately laced with smallpox to commit genecide [as the Hebrews committed against the Hitites.

Above, we have a brief account of your Christians, TR. IF you are like that, shame on you.
Posted by Oliver, Saturday, 16 June 2007 4:23:17 PM
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Dear TR.

Cont...

Presumably, the Lutheran Minister eho blessed the Atomic Bomb on Hiroshima, killing 200,000, was a Christian too. I think it was Urban VIII who had all the pigeons around the Vacant liked, because he didn't like them. Some the prominent Christians and Pope supported pursecuations of the Jews led to the dead and excile of the Jews, freein Christian kings from debts owned to money lenders. And of course between intrigues the Vatican bank engages in usery. And what about Christians swearing on the Bible. What Christian support for slavery? What about Christians maintaining the Black races inferior.

"As I look back on the great work that has been done during the past four years you will understand quite well that my first feeling is simply one of thankfulness to our Almighty God for having allowed me to bring this work to success. He has blessed our labors and has enabled our people to come through all the obstacles which encompassed them on their way...." - Adolf Hilter

It would stand out if Pell excommunited, Pius XI, didn't excommunicate Hilter, his fellow Christian.

Lastly, I suspect that most MAFIA members are not Muslims or free thinkers.
Posted by Oliver, Saturday, 16 June 2007 6:01:36 PM
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ACQVUIS,

Your right about organs. It is truly disgusting how there are cultures that see children that way, as organ banks. In Pakistan, wealthy Arabs from the Gulf states flock their for organ transplants, taking advantage of their poverty.

Having said that, westerners make up about 5% of that market too unfortunately.

I've seen some doco's where they try to make out westerners are the ONLY who do it, perhaps they say this because they know westerners have superior values and will force our governments to stop people going over.

IT'S the same with slavery too. Although westerners used to be involved, it stopped about 200 yrs ago, only the west is looked at as having slaves.

The west share of the market was about 2%, with Arab Muslims making up the bulk of it. It goes on today, in everywhere but the west, no thats not true. there have been cases in the west, but they are all arabs living in the west - enslaving maids from se asia.

the same in the gulf, with much of filipino economy based on workers who go there to perform domestic duties - but often get raped, bashed, not paid.

The whole world needs to be colonised again by the superior west.
Posted by Benjamin, Saturday, 16 June 2007 7:06:49 PM
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Dan writes 'As for your prejudiced opinion about the permission being given for gays to adopt in WA, it just demonstrates how un-Christ-like some Christians like you can be at times.'

It is obvious to anyone with any sort of conscience that to deprive a child of a mother and father is crimminal. Have you visited a prison lately and seen how many fatherless and motherless children end up there. The decision by Mr McGinty who has bowed to his mates (homosexual lobby) is nothing short of disgusting and certainly does not take the childs interest into account. It is bad enough that these 2 men are confused about gender let alone allowing them to ruin a child's life.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 16 June 2007 7:19:30 PM
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Have to disagree with you runner. Homosexuals are not usually confused about their sexuality. There are many fine and talented people in the homosexual society (males and females, perfectly capable of giving a child a loving home. Do not confuse homosexuals with paedophiles.

Many paedophiles are the fathers or grandfathers of the children they have defiled - some the parish priest.

Their are also many high achievers who were raised by only one parent.

I trust you are not basing your prejudices on the flamboyant annual Mardi Gras in Sydney. Have you ever met a homosexual?
Posted by dickie, Saturday, 16 June 2007 7:52:51 PM
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