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Why Hilali must go, and go now : Comments

By Manny Waks, published 17/4/2007

Absurdity has turned into reality in the serial drama that envelops Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali.

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Gerrit, I didn't feel personally criticised, much less attacked, but just saw a need to clarify. Besides, there were the new issues you raised about managerial incompetence and vindictiveness which someone in my camp needed to respond to.

This is probably my last post on this string. Attention is shifting further up.

Pax,
Posted by goodthief, Sunday, 6 May 2007 9:30:54 PM
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GZ Tan,

No you don’t need my respect all you need is self respect. You applied double standards with Pericles and CJ Morgan and mislead everyone with the agnostic logical mask’ just to throw stones on everyone while hiding your little glasshouse.
As for your personal attack on my manners, and after seeing how you interact and resort to name calling to others, I couldn’t have expected anything else from you.

Horus,

I will comment on the Egypt case as I know it and lived there.
Egypt has inexistent anti-discrimination laws and human rights conditions. The government and the system discriminates against everyone indiscriminately’ including Muslims, atheists, feminists, etc..

As for Greece, please remember most Muslim countries have Greek orthodox populations and churches since the Orthodox Church appeared. In fact, Egypt has an official national public holiday for Orthodox Christians where Muslims and christians celebrate. Until today, Greece does not allow its Muslim minorities a single mosque in the whole country.
Posted by Fellow_Human, Sunday, 6 May 2007 10:27:58 PM
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FH,

When did you self-appoint to be a spokesperson for Pericles, CJ Morgan and everyone else?

You talk like Pericles, CJ Morgan are your stooges. Tell me, are they just pretending to be non-Muslims?

As for glasshouse, double standards and misleading everyone - I have never, and no one has ever mentioned those, except you.
So unless and until you substantiate your allegations by quoting from ANYTHING I have written, I shall pronouce you a deceiver.

As for manners, call me rude if you'd like. But I am consistently forthright and I do not have the slightest pretense.

Whereas someone outwardly "friendly" and "well-mannered" likes you have something "positive" to sell. Shouldn't I comment on good manners of a dodgy salesperson?

Are you not continuing the legacy of Muhammad's hoax ?

I have already provided a few reasons why Muhammad should not be believed. So Next time, please provide one proof of Muhammad's encounters with angels before telling anyone what a "true" Islam means.
Posted by GZ Tan, Monday, 7 May 2007 4:51:37 PM
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Fellow_Human,
LOL – I had a feeling that my comment about Egypt would bring you out.

Re Egypt:
You’ve lived in Egypt –but you’ve lived as a member of the dominant class –the unchangeable religion.

While no doubt you can point to Uncle Toms (Uncle Ali’s) who will say life for Copts is heavenly.And you will no doubt point to their material success .We should know from Jewish history that –minorities can be very well educated –relatively rich –but still very much abused.

The real test: Copts almost without exception –when far enough out of the reach of intimidation & the danger of retribution will testify that their lot in Egypt is very much second or worse class.

Re Greece:
The situation I was alluding to was Cyprus. Where in very recent history an Islamic nation ( albeit a moderate one) decided to invade & permanently occupy the northern part of the island, supposedly to ‘protect’ its kindred. Most of the non-kindred others , after being raped , robbed or roughed-up quickly got the message that if they knew what was good for them, they should leave for the south.

There seems to be an implication in your comment that as Greece has banned Islamic places of worship, it has no grounds to criticize Moslem aggression against its territory or people.[ tit for tat!]
Am I reading you correctly
Posted by Horus, Monday, 7 May 2007 7:34:59 PM
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GT Stripe: "You talk like Pericles, CJ Morgan are your stooges. Tell me, are they just pretending to be non-Muslims?"

I can't speak for Pericles, but you've demonstrated sufficiently to me that you're nothing more than an Islamophobic troll, and I've personally decided not to feed you any more. It only seems to encourage you.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 7 May 2007 8:28:13 PM
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CJMorgan, I have no problem with what you said about me. The rest of this post is for FH.

FH,

When responding to Horus, please also include your comments on kidnapping of young girls for conversion to Islam in Egypt.

Google search these words : muslim kidnap coptic christian

http://www.crossrhythms.co.uk/articles/life/Christian_Girls_Kidnapped_In_Egypt_And_Forced_To_Convert_To_Islam/22375/p1/

http://www.kidnappedchristiangirls.org/

( I have a feeling the Islamic Public Relation representative on OLO is working hard on some spins. )
Posted by GZ Tan, Monday, 7 May 2007 9:01:20 PM
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