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Hicks: guilty means guilty, sort of ... : Comments

By Mirko Bagaric, published 28/3/2007

Speculation about David Hicks' actual guilt is pointless.

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Ah no, me old fox - it is the PM and Cabinet who are looking like traitors. They would have been branded as such at Nuremberg, and they stand condemned as such today for their actions.

Hicks is a little sideshow that went badly awry - with a little help from their "friends".

For those with no memory at all, here's a little bit of wisdom from a Guantanamo watcher. Prof McCoy interviewed on Lateline last year:

Lo bandwidth:
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200606/r90598_269857.asx

Hi bandwidth:
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200606/r90598_269856.asx

Listen very carefully.

Hint: Check your ego and prejudice at the door.

- report back to me tomorrow morning.
Posted by Chris Shaw, Carisbrook 3464, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 9:11:22 PM
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"providing material support to terrorism".

I will believe that Hicks should be punished when all those people who contributed money, that went to the IRA, in New York pubs get sent to Gitmo.

I will believe that Hicks is guilty when Henry Kissnger faces criminal charges for all the terror that he sponsored in South and Central America.

I will believe that Hicks is guilty when the CIA kidnaps and renditionises a single member of the Pakistani government on the basis of their support for the Islamic religious schools in Pakistan, that are the prime source of recruitment for fighters in Afghanistan.

I will believe that Hicks is guilty when the USA admits openly that it sponsored the Baath party as a bulwark against the 'threat' of communism during the Cold War.

Yeah, Hicks provided material support for terrorism, about the same level of support that that members of the Croatian community provided by wearing their deaths head badges in Australia in the early 1990, and that Catholics thought that the IRA, by its terrorist campaigns, was trying to liberate Northern Ireland.
Posted by Hamlet, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 11:11:15 PM
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Have people forgotten what happened 5 years ago.

The sovereign nation of Afghanistan was invaded by the US (and its partners) because of the September 11 attacks in New York. The reasoning being the Taliban were hiding Osama Bin Laden, the 'master mind' of this attack on America.

For the sake of capturing a single person, the Americans forcibly removed the ruling members of this nation.

During this time, David Hicks was captured - not by the Americans, but by the Pakistani's - and handed over to the Americans.
His crime? Supporting Terrorism.

Really?

During WWII, foreign members of the French Résistance were performing, conceptually, the same activities as David Hicks - attacking a foreign invader.

We now see these people as heroes. Why is it any different to David's situation? Because it was an 'ally' that was the invader, because of his Muslim faith, or because he is a terrorist?

Remember: "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" - Unknown
Posted by Kasra, Thursday, 29 March 2007 12:37:42 AM
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We all know what it means; except for Dopey Downer.
I wish he would shut up.

"Men ought either to be well treated or crushed"
Niccolò MACHIAVELLI, The Prince

"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."
Voltaire

". .the minority possess their equal rights, which equal laws must protect, and to violate which would be oppression."
Thomas Jefferson
Posted by michael2, Thursday, 29 March 2007 1:18:18 AM
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Wow.. fascinating.

We have Chris bleeding all over the place about "poor David Hicks" and in the next breath calling for MY crucifixion. Not just that, but with an added 'ner ner' kind of thing at the end..and some name calling also 'RATS'....

Chris, and other would be Boaz crucifiers, did you notice my 'question mark' after each 'Fact' ?

If an Australian enlists in the army of our enemy, do we put them on trial or put a bullet in their head ?

I don't understand this 'trial' thing. Do we put every enemy soldier found on the battle field 'on trial' ? Its ludicrious. I can see it now, Fritz (or Mohammad) is coming up out of the bunker, gun blazing, suddenly it jams (and fortunately he missed us) now.. hmmmm what do I do ?

a)Tell him he is a POW and that we are going to put him on trial to determine if he is guilty of trying to kill me ?
b)Blow his brains out ?

You guessed it.. we take aim, and pull the trigger ! boom.. and kill him... WHY ? simple, because you know that if you approach him he is just as likely to rip out a knife and expose your intestines to the vultures.

What many seem to ignore, is that we are in a war. The ideas behind the Taliban are so repulsive that they can only be described as coming from the very pit of hell.

Has anyone forgotten TRAINING CAMPS in Afghanistan for terrorism/explosives/killing, where Aussies were being prepared to destroy us ?

KASRA.. what are you going on about 'soveriegn_nation' invaded ?
Mate.. your views are bordering on seditious. I suppose next you will tell us that invading Japan and Germany in the last World war was totally uneccessary and in fact 'evil' ?

TRIAL ? no need to even mention it. Irrelevant.
War..... captured... nothing more to say.

Hicks is a POW to be interned until the end of that War, then if we destroy our enemy, he can be released under peace treaty terms.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 29 March 2007 5:56:52 AM
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I'll betcha dollars to donuts that if there is a next time for David Hicks... he wont be taken prisoner. And I'll also state for the record that the Americans will probably take fewer prisoners as a way of fighting terrorism.

It's one thing for the police to arrest the same clowns for one more in a long succession of crimes. It's another to to expect that Hicks would be arrested ever again. 5 years in gaol in Northern Afghanistan would probably make Gitmo seem like a week at Cancun(if he lasted the first year). Ask yourself what ever happened to all Hicks fellow terrorist the Yanks never paid a thousand dollars for or jailed at Gitmo.

Dead men tell no tales. And the Left needed a war hero. In this day and age Hicks is the best the Left can muster for worship. They could never honour a real soldier. They must perpetuate the victim.
What a bunch of screwballs.
Posted by aqvarivs, Thursday, 29 March 2007 7:05:10 AM
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