Ha ha ha, I love to see ole Col thinking he is right AGAIN, You should know better by now Frank. Ahh you made my day :)

Part 1 Bernie!

Another great article Bernie.

The system is as equally brutalizing today, as it was back then. Sure the physical punishments may be less (well- we will probably only find that out for sure in 20 years!), but the psychological torture is still as prevalent, and provable today!

(Ie look at the lockdown rates. 18 to 20 hours a day somehow doesn’t classify as isolation or solitary confinement- even when it is happening to everyone in the system!)

Also as prevalent today is the number of kids inside, who are or were under the alleged care of the DOCS Minister.

Going on the official figures, 40% of the girls in Juvenile Justice and in adult prison have been through the DOCS system. At $150,000 per kid in juvenile justice- and around $80,000 for adult women that’s a hell of a lot of money.

Official figures indicate that boys and men who were in DOCS care make up only 30% of prisoners!

Don’t rely on official figures though; the unofficial tampering is huge, and only a few years ago they had the figures running at 2.5% of all prisoners. That changed when they realized the truth was out there however!

The biggest liar in those days was the Community Services Commission (legislated to change the system in the interests of kids in care- wow Col, the choices some people make!) who did interesting math to disprove the reality, and get the numbers way down to 3%, down by at least a factor of 10 !

The Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research hasn’t actively engaged in covering up to the same extent as all of the ‘child savers’ though; BOCSAR hasn’t said or written anything so stupid as to leave a paper trail, they simply ignore the issue totally! (but they have inquired into it haven’t they- see BOCSAR paper no 16- hey, you can’t find a copy! Not one library in the country has it. Even BOCSAR doesn’t have a copy in its own library? Well well well, who might have it I wonder?)

Part 2

In a few years no doubt the principle of that organisation will be join as part of an official chorus line and sing: “wow, its just like the 60’s revisited init’, no one then realised Aborigines were so heavily involved in prison- we were just colour blind!”

Anyway- I digress- sorry.

Oh yeah- Kariong!

Now that was a little regime (along with Ormond- we will get to that one in the future) that was operating up until recently that was almost as brutal as Tamworth. It even had its own ‘maggots’ who used to set up other screws (called ‘youth workers’ ha ha) to be beaten up by the inmates, by forcing them into dangerous situations. The maggots especially liked setting up female guards, and even fabricated evidence about their sexual activities with inmates to ease them out of the system.

The maggots got the ear of the Daily Telegraph, who went into bat for the scum of the earth, and then the NSW Liberal Party fought hard to protect them, by instituting an inquiry.

Eventually Government, despite the protestations of the PSA, the Liberals, and the NGO’s, by aligning government interests with the kids at Kariong, and turning the place into an adult prison, terminated the maggots.

Funnily, it seems the young people had been burning Kariong down periodically for the last few years because they too, wanted to extract themselves from the clutches of NSW DOCS and its control over the Juvenile Prison system (check for yourself, all of J.J.s DG’s came out of DOCS Head Office- wow, but I thought JJ had broken away from DOCS?).

Seems part of the torture regime at NSW JJ was to run kids through the same mindless program 3 and 4 times so as to give them a ‘structured regime’.

Anyway the Daily Tele, and the NSW Liberals fought alongside the conservatives in the child welfare NGO sector to keep Kariong in the hands of NSW DOCS because all the kids were rioting about was to be allowed to smoke in adult prison!

Hello tricky “your reasoning is without fault. i commend you on your venacular, very impressive.
. . . . you seem almost godly the way you dispense your ideology.”

You obviously appreciate “skill” when you see it.

“god help you mr col if misfortune deals you an awkward hand.”

So you know that life has not dealt me any “misfortune”?- Where and when did you source your data?

That I do not wear my “misfortunes” as a cross to bear or an some form of excuse is to merely measure my presence of fortitude to an absence of same in yourself.

Frank “Consider why our courts are able to ask if there are any mitigating circumstances.” And when the mitigating circumstances have been weighed and judgement determined, the criminals end up locked up, where they deserve.

My point regarding specificity and generalisation remains valid and pertinent. The law is a blunt and blind instrument (hence the depiction of a the carrier of the scales of justice wearing a blindfold).

All your protests to the contrary does not reduce the fact that criminals who are convicted have invariably been given options and dispensation and all mitigation has been considered and yet, despite all the latitude, they end up locked up.

Oh – proof that drugs enter by visitors Frank – I suggest you read

http://www.crimecommission.gov.au/content/publications/aidr_2000/08_Drugs_in_prisons.pdf

read it and weep.

And just to confirm it

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21512160-2862,00.html

Part 3 and End!
Don’t worry about the fact that internal reports were marveling at the news that no one had died or been murdered yet in Kariong given it was so out of control, and the fact that the maggots had all the training of….. well maggots I guess! (they both feed of spoilt meat don’t they) seemed not to explain away the good luck of nil deaths.

The system even pulled into it suckers from the DSS, unemployed and untrained to run the place on weekends (well maggots only needed a coupla weeks training anyway), no doubt to the amusement of the maggots!

The place eventually got a small amount of public scrutiny, and was to all intents and purposes closed down, by being placed into the hands of adult corrections. The staff to prisoner ratios have now dropped, along with the levels of self harm, inmate to inmate violence (we don’t know about guard- inmate violence yet) while the programs have gone up, kids now have toasters, jugs and tvs in their cells, and the regime is steady and predictable.

Seems the kids love finally escaping the clutches of the crazy child welfare system, and actually enjoy being in a place where the rules don’t change with every shift!

Oh, and anyone who has a copy of the famous video taken in Kariong by the kids, of the kids smoking pot and doing other drugs, filmed no less on the prisons own video camera, for the full 60 minutes the tape lasted and showing no supervision… even though the kids handed back the camera, sans the tape later, please, I don’t have a copy yet for my archive, and the DG of JJ is a little less than forthcoming…..

Anyway, the system is still making and chewing through these kids, keeping maggots employed all over the place, and the only answer I can seem to get from the system that creates so much disorder in our community is that it’s the kids fault.

Seems they aren’t making the right choices either!

Where do you work Col?

Hello all
After reading the posts on this article I was compelled to have a say in this.I am one of the many boys that were locked up at Endeavour House Tamworth,not once but three times,during the mid to late eightys,originally i was sentenced for truancy and served my time at Anglewood Home.I continued my truancy after I was released and eventually wound up at Mt Penang Gosford where i learnt a lot of the tricks of the trade.From the age of 13 to 18 i was in and out of homes.Then I graduated to Jail. My introduction to jail was Grafton.I spent 10 years in and out (more in) of the jail system in NSW.Now at the age of 43 I trust no one, Am a recovering alcho, and drug addict.I cant hold a job down for more than 6 weeks at a time and have been through countless relationships.Am I to blame for the way I am?