Runner,

I think you will find if you look at the posts that only Snake has spoken in favour of the Dawkins book. I have said that, whilst agreeing with it, it is poorly argued and poorly written. No-one else has mentioned it.

Also the Dawkins book is quite peripheral to Irfan's original article which seemed to me to say, and to correctly say, that rabid Christian god-botherers get away with actions which if committed by Islamists (and perhaps others) would draw considerable criticism. The rantings of Danny Nalliah being a case in point! I agree with him totally.

Reynard

I have not heard 'The rantings of Danny Nalliah' but I doubt he has ever called on Christians to be violent. If he did it would be inconsistant with Christ's teachings unlike Mohammads calls for violence. With all of Irfans ravings, are not the 2 Danny's the only ones who have ever been charged in this country under religous vilification laws? I know a number of Muslims have been charged with terroism. Muslims generally say what they like and get away with it. When they are criticized they play the victim card.

If you are going to charge 'God botherers' then you should also charge the Global warming botherers as they preach their doomsday heresies while cashing in on the gullible. You should also charge the SBS and the ABC with hetrosexual botherers in their attempt to indoctrinate people with their own lack of morals.

People please!

Let us focus on the problem at hand and dispense with the religious slanging match. You can all believe what you like in whatever language or clothing you like, it will make no difference!

You can take 100 million people from as many diverse and disparate ethnic groups you can dream up and put them in Australia. What good will it do those people or the rest of the world? Absolutely nothing. The world population will not even flicker and the ethnic violence within Australia would be catastrophic.

What would those 100 million do to the quality of life we have in Australia?

ABSOLUTELY decimate it. The place would look like Afghanistan in a week. We DO NOT have the resources to support any more people in any semblance of an equitable lifestyle. We are in a perfect position to work out an economic model that will work with a reducing population, then everyone on the planet can learn and have a chance of bringing their kids up with full bellies and a skate-board.

Lets work it out instead of bickering about your own personal deity!

Guy.. I appreciate you wanting to avert pointless bickering between religions, but what you're talking about is immigration.

And nobody is talking about importing 100 million people. Of any persuasion.

runner - your viewpoint is totally clouded by your religion. I'm not sure what you're getting at about the ABC, but it seems to me that you're angry they won't condemn gay people. That about it?

Answer me this - If Danny Nalliah has called for christians to take over the politics of Australia, would you support that call?

And would you support his call to tear down mosques and temples?

You are talking good sense turnrightthenleft. Runner one correction, Islam bought terror to the West. It has existed for a long time in the eyes of those oppressed so corporations could gut countries and rape the population, it exists in the eyes of parents that know that their children will die because resources are spent on arms. Interestingly the permantent members of the Security Council are the worlds biggest gun runners. Bit like putting the fox in charge of the chicken coup. Apart from personal sorrow terrorism in the West is trival in dimension and human scale.

WE should be wary of all forms of extremism. Particularly fanatics who believe that their views should be imposed on everyone.

Irfan has done us a service in alerting us to the rantings of Danny Nalliah. He may be a fruit loop but so was Hitler. Fruit loops in politics can be awfully dangerous. This applied to communists and fascists as well as the evangelic religions.