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No excuses : Comments

By Harry Throssell, published 21/2/2007

Australian Indigenous life expectancy is among the world's poorest.

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Ranier, you have the classic politically correct view that somehow white people aren't qualified to talk about Aboriginal issues. We may be unqualified to talk about them but we ARE qualified to bear responsibility for Aboriginal suffering and to pay the bills. It seems in your view we should simply shut up, feel guilty and pay up. This is brilliant!! I'm sure it will solve everything. I feel humbled and a true “light weight”. In future I'll try to use terms such as 'intersubjective discourse' to prove how intelligent I am.

The simple fact is, if Aboriginals could solve their own problems I'm sure they would.

Chainsmoker, I’m glad you blamed the white fella for putting the chip on Aka’s shoulder. God help her if she were actually responsible for herself.

I won’t reply to any more posts on this thread because I don’t think it’ll do any good. The ‘political class’ will continue to blame white people and black people will continue to die 20 years earlier. In future I’ll just stick to what all bush people do when Aboriginal health or education is discussed – shut up and let experts like Aka and FrankGol do the talking. FrankGol and Aka you may have the last word…
Posted by eet, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 7:28:19 PM
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eet,
Well said. Your assesment of those opposing your comments are spot on. Funny isn't it, how they critize you personally but in almost 50 posts not one of them put forward any suggestion that may be of use to help aboriginals live 20 years longer.

Yep, they reckon if your not at least part aboriginal you should shut up, feel guilty and pay up. But the fact is these loud mouths don't have any improvement suggestions. Notice how the aboriginal board of ATSIC spent billions and made no improvemen to aboriginal health or well being.

Rainier is quick to critize any suggestion made but never, ever makes any himself.

Meanwhile the alcohol abuse, domestic violence, child abuse and neglect and petrol sniffing will continue to get worse.

Well that is a damn pity, but you cannot help those that will not help themselves.

Good luck with your teaching and I hope you get a chance to tell your experiences and suggestions to those that make decissions.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 10:06:56 PM
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Banjo, walk a mile in my shoes.
Posted by Rainier, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 10:13:30 PM
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eet and banjo,

you object to white people being discussed in a similar fashion to the ways in which Aboriginal people are discussed - I wonder why that is.

The tongue in cheek tactic certainly worked a treat.

eet I do question your suitability as a teacher for you have no understanding of the history of violence and dispossession that is fact in Australia. I wonder what your 'friends' who trust you would make of your posts here.

Past events have created the very complex issues that continue to impact on Indigenous Australians.

In your ignorance (I did think of asking for the post to be removed because of flaming) you reflect an attitude that it is up to you to decide who is a 'real' Aboriginal and who is not.

You attack me personally rather than take the time to learn more about the history. Does this reflect your uncertainty of identity.

You use objectionable terms such as 'half-caste' to insult me.

However, I don't need to justify myself to you.

You take a seagull approach whenever someone doesn't agree with you. You fly around screaming and sh**ing on everything and achieve sweet nothing.

You claim frienship with Aboriginal people you have decided are 'real'.

Well I am not a hologram - I am a real live result of the past policies of genocide, child theft and breeding out the colour.

Perhaps this is not what the government policies meant to happen when trying to breed out the colour, for I am no docile domestic servant.

But I guess Australia has to grow up and learn to live with the results of their attempts at social engineering.

Just remember:
Always was, Always will be Aboriginal land.
Posted by Aka, Thursday, 1 March 2007 8:59:11 AM
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Aka

Good on yer. Well said.
Posted by FrankGol, Thursday, 1 March 2007 10:30:02 AM
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eet, i have no problem with white people making comment about Indigenous issues, I just get frustrated when no brainers like you (suck up what could otherwise be productive discussion) with ill informed crap. Then you get defensive when its revealed for what it is? Puleeze!
Posted by Rainier, Thursday, 1 March 2007 1:54:50 PM
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