I missed Four Corners but will be watching the repeat tomorrow.

Perseus, your reasoning is not convincing enough- come up with proof, facts, links, evidence...ANYTHING.
Bush tried to gag his top climate modeller Jim Hansen when he found that the Greenland ice cap is breaking up at twice the rate it was five years ago.

Why are so many intelligent, well informed and educated people convinced of climate change; what would they have to gain from such a subterfuge that you claim?

Is it not easier to believe that everything is OK and that we, as human beings, do not need to change our wasteful ways?
Put simply why would Al Gore travel the world lying?
He doesn't need the money nor the notoriety.

However, the denyers have much to gain - or rather to retain, they don't have to change their greedy ways. And they don't have to look beyond the 'here and now'.
You will find you'll have to eat your words. Unfortunately.

I wish climate change wasn't true, but it is.

Fester, you have used the raw rate not the net rate after new ice formation on top of the sheet. And to extrapolate like you have from a single warm decade when that decade is merely the end of a cooling cycle that covered the last 4 decades, is blatant cherry picking.

It is also worth noting that the press made the same error.

So your compounding rate is grossly exaggerated. New ice formation is a fact. It cannot be ignored. And as long as it continues there is very little prospect of the Greenland Ice sheet melting away for many millenia. And that means we have a lot more time at our disposal to come up with better and cheaper carbon management technology.

Fester, you have to remember NASA has been broken up into 3 components;
You have the real science department;

You have the department of pseudo science and common fallacies.

You have the department of Mythical mysterious and the ridicules; but what the hell if people love this crap, and it gives us “Grants” and a boost in funding, Then give them what they want regardless.

It is a bit like when they say; “We have discovered the possibility of life forms elsewhere”;
Not even the most hardened skeptic would understand that is a coded message for; “Give me more money” ; “Increase our Funding by a few Billion”; and watch the money come pouring in.
Its called New Age Marketing.

Never underestimate the power of Greed and stupidity when it comes to those ethics being applied.

Where else do you this principle applied?

Perseus you still talk like a duck

Yes Perseus, my model is silly, but so is yours. Yet you seem convinced of your model with comment like this:

"And as long as it continues there is very little prospect of the Greenland Ice sheet melting away for many millenia."

Comment like that has no scientific basis whatever. The behaviour of ice sheets is poorly understood, and as a consequence so is their influence on sea level. It does not surprise me that the denialists are so vehement about melting ice sheets, as the consequence of a substantial sea level rise is the destruction of trillions of dollars worth of property. The funding applications of scientists pale into insignificance against this.

I for one would like to see the ice sheet research continued, as rising sea levels are perhaps the greatest threat of global warming. Only by understanding the ice sheet dynamics can this threat be understood.

Now I have heard everything Fester. If ice continues to be formed from snow on the top of the ice sheet, and given that we are dealing with 2.5 million cubic kilometres of ice that is only melting at 129Km3 each year then reasonable men and women would conclude that it will take a very long time, (19,000 years) to completely melt.

You used a rate of increase in melt rate that was based on only part of the evidence and then claimed an exponential growth based on that rate. Which makes you either a deluded green dropkick or a sleazy propagandist who thinks he has a right to mislead public debate.

And if you were even partially informed on the topic you would know that even the spivs at the IPCC have seriously toned down their guesstimates of sea level increase over the next 50 to 100 years. That is, they accept that the grossly exaggerated melt rate of the ice sheets was in error.